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Old 6th September 2015, 03:18 PM   #1
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Default Need translation for an Indian torador with heavy Barrel

This torador has a heavy barrel 112 cm for about 5.5 kg and diameter 20mm.
It has an arsenal mark.
I guess it could be a wall gun ,the barrel seems to be an early Turkish barrel.
Any comment on it would be welcome and of course a translation for the arsenal mark would be appreciated
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Old 7th September 2015, 10:19 AM   #2
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Hi,

The script is Devanagari used for writing Sanskrit, Hindi and Marathi languages.

It reads Ra Ja Pa Li Ta(?) Ha Na Li

Which could be the name of a place or person. Mostly, a place
Also the writing appears to be done much later as the style looks to be of a much recent form.
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Old 7th September 2015, 11:44 AM   #3
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Hi,

The script is Devanagari used for writing Sanskrit, Hindi and Marathi languages.

It reads Ra Ja Pa Li Ta(?) Ha Na Li

Which could be the name of a place or person. Mostly, a place
Also the writing appears to be done much later as the style looks to be of a much recent form.
Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Bhushan
Dear bhushan_lawate

Thank you very much for the translation.
according to the style Do you have any idea from which period could be this writing?
I have in an other TORADOR with an other type of writing ,is it an older style of writing ?
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Old 7th September 2015, 01:21 PM   #4
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GREETINGS CERJAK
THIS ONE HAS KOTA ARMOURY MARKS,WHICH WAS A PRINCELY STATE OF RAJASTHAN..NORTH WEST INDIA,CHEERS RAJESH
THE EARLIER ONE IS FROM THE JAIPUR ARMOURY ANOTHER IMPORTANT AND CAPITAL OF RAJASTHAN STATE,AND VERY NICE ETHNIC MUSKETS
PLEASE CAN YOU POST A GOOD PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE COLLECTION
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Old 7th September 2015, 02:28 PM   #5
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Very nice and interesting toradors, Cerjak!

The problem with markings, like with your first one, is that weapons moved around so much in India, war booty etc. and they could be very old before being captured (or whatever) and given inventory numbers in their 'new' arsenal. This could happen to an arm more than once, so making the trail very murky for us to follow.
I also believe the markings are much newer than the torador, but this only adds interest! It has a history, and finding out what we can is the intriguing part!

Richard.
Edited to add;

I note there appears never to have been a pan cover fitted. This appears quite common on Toradors, but (Only once I think) I saw a torador with a slip-on pan cover, that was attached to the gun by a chain or thong.
I wonder how common a slip-on cover would have been?
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Old 7th September 2015, 03:01 PM   #6
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Dear Richard,

Thank you for your comment ,by the way the top torador in my pictures still have his pan cover.
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