Spike dagger. Japanese?

Edster · 9th February 2023, 10:12 PM

The item looks too long and thin to be a weapon. Could be a veterinary device (called a torcar) to puncture cow or sheep (rumens) stomach to relieve bloat (gas buildup). Of course I could be way off, but form does in fact follow function and there were cows and sheep and vets in the Raj.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/22518...andl_shipto=US

Ed

milandro · 10th February 2023, 08:18 AM

the torcar is essentially a needle , a tube with a point, it has to be made that way because it is left in situ to deflate the stomach until it has (I studied agricultural science and have handled a couple of these) , so no, this isn't one.

Also the supposed " Kanji" ( in Japan they use 3 different writing system and if anything this looks like katakana , the other one being hiragana ) isn't not.

Il looks like a 01

I concur with a swagger stick of some sort with a blade, probably anglo-indian and I don't think it is very old.

These are often reproduced to look like weapons made in the raj period but they aren't.

We see some in the NL but because the trade of concealed blades is forbidden in the NL not as many as elsewhere.

they look like this

ausjulius · 11th February 2023, 02:32 AM

its a north african or indian made swagger stick, some were made in egypt or the sudan others in india for british troops in the 19th and 20th century. .

Ian · 13th February 2023, 06:45 AM

I think ausjulius has nailed it. Swagger stick for a colonial Brit.

9th February 2023, 10:12 PM	#1
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 401	The item looks too long and thin to be a weapon. Could be a veterinary device (called a torcar) to puncture cow or sheep (rumens) stomach to relieve bloat (gas buildup). Of course I could be way off, but form does in fact follow function and there were cows and sheep and vets in the Raj. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/22518...andl_shipto=US Ed Last edited by Edster; 9th February 2023 at 10:14 PM. Reason: added trocar link

10th February 2023, 08:18 AM	#2
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 422	the torcar is essentially a needle , a tube with a point, it has to be made that way because it is left in situ to deflate the stomach until it has (I studied agricultural science and have handled a couple of these) , so no, this isn't one. Also the supposed " Kanji" ( in Japan they use 3 different writing system and if anything this looks like katakana , the other one being hiragana ) isn't not. Il looks like a 01 I concur with a swagger stick of some sort with a blade, probably anglo-indian and I don't think it is very old. These are often reproduced to look like weapons made in the raj period but they aren't. We see some in the NL but because the trade of concealed blades is forbidden in the NL not as many as elsewhere. they look like this Attached Images Last edited by milandro; 10th February 2023 at 09:19 PM.

11th February 2023, 02:32 AM	#3
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 415	its a north african or indian made swagger stick, some were made in egypt or the sudan others in india for british troops in the 19th and 20th century. .

13th February 2023, 06:45 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,042	I think ausjulius has nailed it. Swagger stick for a colonial Brit.