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Old 11th July 2021, 06:51 PM   #1
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Here are some pre-restoration pictures of the pommel.
Wow, thank you for sharing this! You did a great job with the restoration.

It was my first Barong so I am very happy with it.
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Old 12th July 2021, 05:42 AM   #2
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Indio_Ira,

I think your blade is of Sulu manufacture but the dress is distinctly Maranao in the style of silverwork on the hilt and the composition of the scabbard. The Sulu origin of the blade can be deduced from the area of maximum width of the blade (shown by the rectangular outline on the attached picture), which less than halfway towards the tip. Blades from Palawan and Zamboanga have more distal areas of maximum width. The different geometries confer different handling characteristics.

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Old 12th July 2021, 04:11 PM   #3
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Old 13th July 2021, 07:02 PM   #4
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Awesome pieces!! Specially the ivory ball pommel hilt.

What’s the provenance of the top Barong with a larger width blade?
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Old 14th July 2021, 02:21 AM   #5
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Charles, that faceted hilt is uncommon, very nice. What’s even better is the scabbard, amazing wood grain. What’s on the reverse side of the scabbard?
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Old 14th July 2021, 12:37 PM   #6
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Charles, that faceted hilt is uncommon, very nice. What’s even better is the scabbard, amazing wood grain. What’s on the reverse side of the scabbard?
I agree Kino. The reverse side is the same. I am travelling at the moment and will confirm that when I get home.
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Old 14th July 2021, 12:35 PM   #7
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What’s the provenance of the top Barong with a larger width blade?
Generally when I see octagonal hilts and ferrules I think of Sulu, but I have also learned not to be to "rules" oriented when identifying a piece's origin.
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Old 14th July 2021, 12:44 PM   #8
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Awesome pieces!! Specially the ivory ball pommel hilt.
A ball pommel barong had been on my wish list for 20 years. I knew they existed, though quite rare. I even had trouble convincing some collectors that they did exist. This one, being with that hilt, is just that much more special. The balance and heft of the piece is amazing. It is very heavy. The scabbard is made for it, but is later to the barong.

Now there is one more style of ball pommel barong on my list...
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Old 14th July 2021, 03:14 PM   #9
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Hello Charles,

Congrats on 2 nice acquisitions!


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A ball pommel barong had been on my wish list for 20 years. I knew they existed, though quite rare. I even had trouble convincing some collectors that they did exist. This one, being with that hilt, is just that much more special. The balance and heft of the piece is amazing. It is very heavy. The scabbard is made for it, but is later to the barong.
Certainly looks like quite a beast - what are the dimensions and weight?

I have no qualms about this blade originating from the 19th century; the scabbard certainly is a much later replacement (apparently of really nice quality though!).

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Both are beautiful and very rare Charles, congrats!

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Old 20th July 2021, 06:29 PM   #11
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A Barung that has a similar pommel construction to IndioIra’s. The dovetailed crest reminds me of a Torogan’s panolong
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Kai that tail okir is Maranao.

Very nice.
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Old 21st July 2021, 02:48 PM   #13
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that tail okir is Maranao.
Makes sense, the Torogan that I'm referring to is in Maranao territory.
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