Sarajevo knife and fork.

gp · 29th May 2020, 06:46 PM

request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do?
Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied:

1. leave as is
2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition.

This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry.

Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot

Tim Simmons · 31st May 2020, 08:06 PM

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

gp · 1st June 2020, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.

Thnx a lot for the advice !

gp · 1st June 2020, 08:20 PM

Proof that most of these smaller knives from a later date were made for non combat reasons but rather ceremonial, domestic or touristic use by the K.u.K. officers corps is for instance this original cutlery set box from 1889

gp · 1st June 2020, 08:34 PM

seperate from the cutlery box, I have seen several times an original set containing one single knive ( smal bichaq) with one fork and sometimes one spoon being wrapped in a leather cloth.
This being pure functional : for picknick or field lunches by the officers in Bosnia, Hercegowina and Sandzjak.
Rarely one sees a luxery version like the enclosed set in a scabbard.
This is also an early set as it lacks the year BUT has Sarajevo written in Arabic Turkish caligraphic letters next to Sarajevo in Latin writing, which one does not see at all in later sets { i.e. from the late 188-ies}

gp · 15th January 2021, 10:22 PM

just new in my collection 4 sets: bone, brass and steel, nickel plated

white bone: length 20,3 cm, forks 19 cm
green bone: length 21,3 cm, forks 20,8 cm

gp · 20th February 2021, 11:44 AM

some better pics on the 2 green sets after cleaning the dirt and a little corrosion

I did not notice before & when buying them, nor was it anyway to be seen on the sellers advert an issue I found remarkable and never did see with any "cutlery"sets before is that the maker went very much into detail of copying a yataghan :
the fork having 2 and knife having 3 nails at the top back of the ears / wings

any one in the forum seen or having a similar set with these 2 and 3 nails ?

29th May 2020, 06:46 PM	#1
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 676	request for advice: I just received this set ( although I knew about the lacking piece of horn on the knife ) was wondering what to do? Normally from an authentic / original perspective 2 options can be applied: 1. leave as is 2. add a replacement piece in such a way that a clear difference can be seen between original and authentic piece versus addition. This is done f.i. with historic seals or old books or jewelry. Henceforth looking forward to your experience and advice being the new kid on the block... THNX a lot Attached Images

1st June 2020, 08:20 PM	#4
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 676	Proof that most of these smaller knives from a later date were made for non combat reasons but rather ceremonial, domestic or touristic use by the K.u.K. officers corps is for instance this original cutlery set box from 1889 Attached Images Last edited by gp; 1st June 2020 at 08:44 PM.

1st June 2020, 08:34 PM	#5
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 676	seperate from the cutlery box, I have seen several times an original set containing one single knive ( smal bichaq) with one fork and sometimes one spoon being wrapped in a leather cloth. This being pure functional : for picknick or field lunches by the officers in Bosnia, Hercegowina and Sandzjak. Rarely one sees a luxery version like the enclosed set in a scabbard. This is also an early set as it lacks the year BUT has Sarajevo written in Arabic Turkish caligraphic letters next to Sarajevo in Latin writing, which one does not see at all in later sets { i.e. from the late 188-ies} Attached Images Last edited by gp; 1st June 2020 at 10:24 PM.

15th January 2021, 10:22 PM	#6
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 676	just new in my collection 4 sets: bone, brass and steel, nickel plated white bone: length 20,3 cm, forks 19 cm green bone: length 21,3 cm, forks 20,8 cm Attached Images

20th February 2021, 11:44 AM	#7
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 676	some better pics on the 2 green sets after cleaning the dirt and a little corrosion I did not notice before & when buying them, nor was it anyway to be seen on the sellers advert an issue I found remarkable and never did see with any "cutlery"sets before is that the maker went very much into detail of copying a yataghan : the fork having 2 and knife having 3 nails at the top back of the ears / wings any one in the forum seen or having a similar set with these 2 and 3 nails ? Attached Images Last edited by gp; 20th February 2021 at 12:05 PM.

31st May 2020, 08:06 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,746	If you can get the handle off it will be easy to form another spacer from bone and when polished will fit in very well.