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Old 22nd July 2017, 08:01 AM   #1
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Default Indian mounted warrior.

Here are two rare photographs, they show what was certainly among the very last of the mounted Indian warriors. I found the first photo awhile back, recently I ran into the second photo. These two photos were obviously meant to be seen together, they are labeled #38 and #39. I edited both photos and created a new image showing both side of this Indian warrior in one photo.

Indian warrior from Orchha. Mounted Indian warrior with a tulwar sword, wearing mail and plate armor (zirah bagtar), helmet (khula khud) and arm guards (dastana), he is holding a very long lance and there is a shield at his side.
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Old 25th July 2017, 03:24 AM   #2
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This image was posted already but I found a much larger one.

Moroccan man wearing a genoui (janwi) dagger and holding a kabyle (moukhala) musket, 1875-1890.

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I noticed that this photo has not been posted here yet.
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Bodyguard of the Sultan, Djokjakarta, Java, c1923.
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This image was posted already but I found a much larger one.

Moroccan man wearing a genoui (janwi) dagger and holding a kabyle (moukhala) musket, 1875-1890.
Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.
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Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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Afghan Afridi warriors, a good look reveals that two of them are wearing khyber knives, something not often seen.

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i see what may be a third man with a 'khyber knife' with the end showing above his belt (i circled it in red) and the ghost of the scabbard tip outlined behind the robes that he wears further down, also circled in red.
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i see what may be a third man with a 'khyber knife' with the end showing above his belt (i circled it in red) and the ghost of the scabbard tip outlined behind the robes that he wears further down, also circled in red.
There are a few more partial showings of khyber knives and one pistol.
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Very nice, thanks to the better resolution I finally noticed the beehive flask on his right hip as well.
and a koummiya
just look above the flask
for me the long dagger is a sboula not a genoui
It's very interesting, because this guy has a koummiya and a sboula.
IMHO the sboula was used as a short sword and the koummiya as a dagger.
More interesting the short sword is also called a nimcha in Morocco/Algeria.
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Here is an higher resolution image of one that was previously posted here. It shows two Afghans with jezail muskets. The image was large enough to see the karud dagger that one of them is wearing.

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Would this particular type of musket be called a Moroccan afedali snaphaunce lock musket? I originally had it as a kabyle (moukhala) musket.
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Just noticed the ...bipod? in use here.I'm not a collecter of muskets and no little about them but how common were such attachments? I had somehow always thought of them as a modern development for automatic weapons.
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Would this particular type of musket be called a Moroccan afedali snaphaunce lock musket? I originally had it as a kabyle (moukhala) musket.
Mukahla (Snaphaunce lock). Taroudant Region, Oued Sous Valley, Morocco.
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Old 15th October 2023, 01:47 AM   #15
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Here are two rare photographs, they show what was certainly among the very last of the mounted Indian warriors. I found the first photo awhile back, recently I ran into the second photo. These two photos were obviously meant to be seen together, they are labeled #38 and #39. I edited both photos and created a new image showing both side of this Indian warrior in one photo.

Indian warrior from Orchha. Mounted Indian warrior with a tulwar sword, wearing mail and plate armor (zirah bagtar), helmet (khula khud) and arm guards (dastana), he is holding a very long lance and there is a shield at his side.
Great photos! Thanks for sharing and editing.

I have a heavy duty Indian spear here of similar length.

I've often thought it was Mughal heavy cavalry, perhaps even Sri Lankan in origin as there are similarities to a very long old Sri Lankan lance here, however, I remain uncertain as the large one does not have the taper and POB like the one in the images.

Thanks again for sharing!
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