Unknown club (amazon and purple heart wood?)

Tim Simmons · 10th August 2017, 04:09 PM

More useful info.

http://www.wood-database.com/brazilwood/
http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/

Tim Simmons · 10th August 2017, 04:33 PM

I wonder if this might be Brazil wood as seen in the data base. The end grain is porous but i cannot show that.

Violin bow link
http://www.theviolinsite.com/violin_bows/index.html

Bows can cost a packet!!!!
https://www.londonviolins.co.uk/bows.php

fireiceviper · 7th February 2018, 03:43 PM

A fine looking club, the square shape is something that i have seen before, the handle is unusual and almost looks Melanesian (Vanuatu) (but its not). the sharp square corners can only be done with the hardest woods, i have a spear that has similar square sides but then changes to round... does yours do this to?

also perhaps some more images of this club?

Roland_M · 8th February 2018, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireiceviper

A fine looking club, the square shape is something that i have seen before, the handle is unusual and almost looks Melanesian (Vanuatu) (but its not). the sharp square corners can only be done with the hardest woods, i have a spear that has similar square sides but then changes to round... does yours do this to?

also perhaps some more images of this club?

Hello,

sure I will make some more pictures for you.

Yesterday I found out, that the wood ist extraordinary hard. Among the hardest ebony woods, like grenadilla. I think the wood is so hard, it can easily destroy steel swords. I have a small collection of ebony wood and this club is the most beautiful.

Roland

Roland_M · 12th February 2018, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireiceviper

the sharp square corners can only be done with the hardest woods, i have a spear that has similar square sides but then changes to round... does yours do this to?

also perhaps some more images of this club?

Last days I was hoping for better wheather conditions. Sunlight is important to bring out the full color of the wood.
But nothing than rain and dark clouds. So finally I made some pictures under halogen-light, which is really not ideal.

The club is fully square-shaped and the handle is very small. One need a very strong arm to hold the club with one hand on its handle. But with two hands, it is truly a formidable weapon.

Both ends of the wood became black over the time, this makes me think, it could be an old club.

I will make better pictures as soon as the sun is with me.

Roland

Tim Simmons · 12th February 2018, 06:22 PM

The small handle is a pommel. The club is the same as mine except mine has a residual guard which also contains a two handed grip. I would like to see daylight picture when you can.

kronckew · 12th February 2018, 06:29 PM

It's also possible that the lower section referred to as 'the handle' is really the pommel, and was held in front of that section.

Roland_M · 13th February 2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

It's also possible that the lower section referred to as 'the handle' is really the pommel, and was held in front of that section.

Yes it's possible but the club would be still too heavy (1.2 kg) for one hand, almost uncontrolable during action. And it is not because my hands are too weak! Together with a Special Forces Army veteran, we are the only ones in our shooting club, which can shoot more than 70 well aimed shots in one hour with a 1.7 kg pistol in one hand.

If I place my left hand directly in front of the "pommel" there is no good grip for my right hand, the club is too wide for a good grip.

The only way to hold the club safe and to make controled actions is with the left hand on the "pommel" and the right hand directly before the left hand.

I'm also unsure about the material, it is too red for purple heart wood. Much darker than all examples I saw until now.

The whole thing is a mystery for me.

Roland

10th August 2017, 04:33 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,742	I wonder if this might be Brazil wood as seen in the data base. The end grain is porous but i cannot show that. Violin bow link http://www.theviolinsite.com/violin_bows/index.html Bows can cost a packet!!!! https://www.londonviolins.co.uk/bows.php Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 10th August 2017 at 04:45 PM.

10th August 2017, 04:09 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,742	More useful info. http://www.wood-database.com/brazilwood/ http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/

7th February 2018, 03:43 PM	#3
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	A fine looking club, the square shape is something that i have seen before, the handle is unusual and almost looks Melanesian (Vanuatu) (but its not). the sharp square corners can only be done with the hardest woods, i have a spear that has similar square sides but then changes to round... does yours do this to? also perhaps some more images of this club?

12th February 2018, 06:22 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,742	The small handle is a pommel. The club is the same as mine except mine has a residual guard which also contains a two handed grip. I would like to see daylight picture when you can.

12th February 2018, 06:29 PM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,152	It's also possible that the lower section referred to as 'the handle' is really the pommel, and was held in front of that section.