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Old 14th December 2023, 03:02 AM   #1
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Default Thai Siam Ivory paper knife Buddhist

Well it's not really a blade but the handles just so pretty, blown away by the carving of the temple guard inside the handle.
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Old 14th December 2023, 06:13 AM   #2
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Hello Phil,

That's not a paper knife but a betel cutting knife, most probably from Thailand. A very beautiful one!

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Old 14th December 2023, 10:40 AM   #3
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Hello Phil,

That's not a paper knife but a betel cutting knife, most probably from Thailand. A very beautiful one!

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!!!!!!!! the blades a slivers of Ivory, I'd assumed it was for turning pages, cant see how it could be used for cutting betel nuts unless it's just a decorative piece.
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Old 14th December 2023, 10:46 AM   #4
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...cant see how it could be used for cutting betel nuts...
Ditto .
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Old 14th December 2023, 01:53 PM   #5
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A nice old letter opener by the looks... it isn't going to cut much else, it would be lucky to pull the skin of custard.

The pieces are artistically and culturally correct, but I can't help but feel they are a marriage of different pieces.
For sure paper knives like this exist, I only question the unusual angle at the forte and the obvious modern glue fixing the blade.

Potentially, and just thinking out loud, right or wring, perhaps once a full sliver of ivory including an integral hilt was the paper knife and it may have been melded into part of a defunct silverware set or similar.
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Old 14th December 2023, 03:35 PM   #6
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!!!!!!!! the blades a slivers of Ivory, I'd assumed it was for turning pages, cant see how it could be used for cutting betel nuts unless it's just a decorative piece.
I agree. I also can't see how it could be used as a weapon, so i believe regardless of its beauty, this one belongs in the Miscellaneous Forum.
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Old 14th December 2023, 03:36 PM   #7
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I agree. I also can't see how it could be used as a weapon, so i believe regardless of its beauty, this one belongs in the Miscellaneous Forum.
So it goes !
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Old 14th December 2023, 07:47 PM   #8
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I'm a bit suspicious about that Ivory handle; all those dark flecks in the material make me wonder if it is bone.
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Old 18th December 2023, 01:06 PM   #9
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!!!!!!!! the blades a slivers of Ivory, I'd assumed it was for turning pages, cant see how it could be used for cutting betel nuts unless it's just a decorative piece.
Sorry Phil,

I've thought that it has an iron blade!

But it remains strongly to a Thai betel knife shown in "Betelschneider" from Henry Brownrigg , see attached pictures. Anyway, your paper knife is a beauty!

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Old 19th December 2023, 11:16 PM   #10
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I too vote for Ivory. The carving is astounding!
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