Ladrang remodelled?

Gustav · 27th February 2024, 06:48 AM

Alan, thank you.

A. G. Maisey · 27th February 2024, 09:02 PM

This thread began with a question on restoration/repair of a ladrang /ladrangan wrongko, so I thought it might be of interest if we considered the name of this type of wrongko.

The name "ladrang" or "ladrangan" (ie, "like a ladrang") was not just plucked out of thin air and stuck on the formal Javanese wrongko style, it has a relationship to something else, that something else is gamelan music. Gamelan is the traditional music form of Javanese, Balinese & Sundanese people.

In gamelan music the word "ladrang" refers to a number of beats (32) that are played between the strikes of the biggest gong (gong ageng) which sets the rhythmic structure of a composition. Ladrang can be used in any melody tempo except for one.

The ladrang in gamelan music is integral to the rhythm of a composition, the rhythm of a composition conveys the feeling of the composition.

The ladrangan wrongko is worn at formal & official occasions, & its universal use for dress at that occasion conveys the feeling attached to the occasion, thus the ladrangan wrongko serves the same purpose in a social context as does the ladrang in gamelan music, ergo, it is "like a ladrang" = "ladrangan".

I'm not a real big fan of gamelan music, some I rather like, some I do not like --- which is about what applies with my taste in western music too, as they say, "there are only two types of music, good music & bad music, & each of us decides which is which". What I have just related above is apparently gamelan 101.

Gayaman wrongko.

While we're at it, we might as well look at the other major type of Javanese wrongko too, the gayaman.

The word "gayaman" means "like a gayam".

The gayam tree is a shade tree in Jawa that has small edible fruit, best way to eat this fruit is to make chips of it and fry it.

Anyway, the gayaman wrongko supposedly looks like a gayam fruit, which I guess it does with only a little bit of imagination.

David · 28th February 2024, 05:24 PM

Thanks for that additional information. As someone who also has a passion for world percussion I find this explanation of extra interest.

A. G. Maisey · 28th February 2024, 06:43 PM

Gamelan is perhaps a percussionists percussion, but my flavour of percussion is more along the lines of Frank Carlson, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa --- the greats of the swing era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCsypqkjyE

What I do find to be incredibly clever is the way in which gamelan players are taught.

Some teachers have the ability to sit opposite the pupil & play in a reverse position. Incredible to watch.

Pendita65 · 29th February 2024, 07:56 PM

Dear Mr. Maisey and Gustav from Ladrang to Gamelan it 's curious to see where it guide us. Very interesting observations and it brings me to the point just find a good ladrang with age that will fit my Keris.

The more i read the more i want to know but also the amount of questions grows.

It's a pleasure to be among so much knowledge and thank you all for trying to clear things for me.

27th February 2024, 09:02 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,736	This thread began with a question on restoration/repair of a ladrang /ladrangan wrongko, so I thought it might be of interest if we considered the name of this type of wrongko. The name "ladrang" or "ladrangan" (ie, "like a ladrang") was not just plucked out of thin air and stuck on the formal Javanese wrongko style, it has a relationship to something else, that something else is gamelan music. Gamelan is the traditional music form of Javanese, Balinese & Sundanese people. In gamelan music the word "ladrang" refers to a number of beats (32) that are played between the strikes of the biggest gong (gong ageng) which sets the rhythmic structure of a composition. Ladrang can be used in any melody tempo except for one. The ladrang in gamelan music is integral to the rhythm of a composition, the rhythm of a composition conveys the feeling of the composition. The ladrangan wrongko is worn at formal & official occasions, & its universal use for dress at that occasion conveys the feeling attached to the occasion, thus the ladrangan wrongko serves the same purpose in a social context as does the ladrang in gamelan music, ergo, it is "like a ladrang" = "ladrangan". I'm not a real big fan of gamelan music, some I rather like, some I do not like --- which is about what applies with my taste in western music too, as they say, "there are only two types of music, good music & bad music, & each of us decides which is which". What I have just related above is apparently gamelan 101. Gayaman wrongko. While we're at it, we might as well look at the other major type of Javanese wrongko too, the gayaman. The word "gayaman" means "like a gayam". The gayam tree is a shade tree in Jawa that has small edible fruit, best way to eat this fruit is to make chips of it and fry it. Anyway, the gayaman wrongko supposedly looks like a gayam fruit, which I guess it does with only a little bit of imagination. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 27th February 2024 at 09:26 PM.

27th February 2024, 06:48 AM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,201	Alan, thank you.

28th February 2024, 05:24 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,042	Thanks for that additional information. As someone who also has a passion for world percussion I find this explanation of extra interest.

28th February 2024, 06:43 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,736	Gamelan is perhaps a percussionists percussion, but my flavour of percussion is more along the lines of Frank Carlson, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa --- the greats of the swing era. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlCsypqkjyE What I do find to be incredibly clever is the way in which gamelan players are taught. Some teachers have the ability to sit opposite the pupil & play in a reverse position. Incredible to watch.

29th February 2024, 07:56 PM	#5
Pendita65 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 72	Dear Mr. Maisey and Gustav from Ladrang to Gamelan it 's curious to see where it guide us. Very interesting observations and it brings me to the point just find a good ladrang with age that will fit my Keris. The more i read the more i want to know but also the amount of questions grows. It's a pleasure to be among so much knowledge and thank you all for trying to clear things for me.