help with devangari inscription

ariel · 3rd January 2021, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary

I'm afraid it doesn't matter. I don't think this sword belonged to him.

Jens' translation clearly states that the sword DID NOT belong to Shri Baldevji.
See:
"Shri Baldevji Sahay Rup Singh Sangawat Samb(v)at 1911.
Shri Baldevji is the Deva to whom obseience is paid. Rup Singh is obviously the ownern of the piece who belongs to the Sangawat Rajput clan."

Mercenary · 3rd January 2021, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Jens' translation clearly states that the sword DID NOT belong to Shri Baldevji.
See:
"Shri Baldevji Sahay Rup Singh Sangawat Samb(v)at 1911.
Shri Baldevji is the Deva to whom obseience is paid. Rup Singh is obviously the ownern of the piece who belongs to the Sangawat Rajput clan."

Ariel, thanks for responding. I really went deep into the study of the religious culture of India, but I am still far from looking for the sword of Shri Baldev Ji.
I just wanted to point out that we need to be careful with such inscriptions on the hilt.

ariel · 4th January 2021, 12:02 AM

Had it been inscribed with the name of Shah Jahan , we could have been rightfully skeptical.
But Rup Singh? Some functionary so minor, that nobody even knows his name or place on the totem pole?

I wouldn’t doubt his ownership of this sword or his subservient position to Sri Baldev Ji.

BTW, who was this Sri Baldev Ji? :-)))

psingh123 · 4th January 2021, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Had it been inscribed with the name of Shah Jahan , we could have been rightfully skeptical.
But Rup Singh? Some functionary so minor, that nobody even knows his name or place on the totem pole?

I wouldn’t doubt his ownership of this sword or his subservient position to Sri Baldev Ji.

BTW, who was this Sri Baldev Ji? :-)))

maybe baldev is referring to balarama? the older brother of krishna who was also referred to as baladeva?

Mercenary · 4th January 2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

BTW, who was this Sri Baldev Ji? :-)))

I apologize. It is not always written "Sri Baldev Ji" on such hilt. On the hilt from the post of Envodas it is written "Sri Baidyanath Ji". Very crudely and with mistakes. I do not believe that this was written by the court masters in the 19th century.

Baldev, Baidyanath ... are different representations of Shiva.

4th January 2021, 12:02 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Had it been inscribed with the name of Shah Jahan , we could have been rightfully skeptical. But Rup Singh? Some functionary so minor, that nobody even knows his name or place on the totem pole? I wouldn’t doubt his ownership of this sword or his subservient position to Sri Baldev Ji. BTW, who was this Sri Baldev Ji? :-)))