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Old 1st April 2024, 08:59 PM   #1
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Very nice sword and rare to have the diamond cross section blade type. Usually only some band swords have this type blade though I have one infantry sword with the same type.
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As I said earlier, the blade is a masterpiece; I don't know about a hat - but, as someone said, it could definitely be a belt. Yet it is rigid enough to stab with, and also very sharp.
They took their duties very seriously back then, before mobile phones, cctv and laser fencing.
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I'm not saying they still don't... please forgive any unintended aspersions.
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Old 3rd April 2024, 08:55 PM   #3
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I was looking at https://www.antique-swords.co.uk/ant...ole-p162768233 and noted the similar blade style... I also note certain Canadian swords of Robert Mole as being similar...Peter Hudson.
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Old 3rd April 2024, 10:06 PM   #4
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Hello Peter. Thank-you, yes, a definite earlier incarnation.
I normally don't pay any attention to post 1800 swords as only Mole survived into that century... but how they survived!
Tens of thousands - if not hundreds of thousands of blades produced up until 1920 when WS merged with them. I have to assume there are a great number have survived and, given the size of our empire, can probably be found all over the world.
As I mentioned, I was looking for something a bit special and I certainly found it.

Incidentally, regarding the beginning and the end of the Shotley Bridge history:
'Bertram' was producing the finest steel in Europe and making sword-blades at his forge in Allensford nearly 20 years before the Solingen diaspora arrived in 1687, then the Wilsons were hilting and engraving them in the village.
So really, Bertram is the true beginning of the story; this is apposite because the Bertrams that moved back to Solingen, after making straight razors with a royal warrant from Victoria (we assume for Albert - but maybe not) in Sheffield, married into the poultry business in Solingen and started a company that would remain family run until the 1970s.
The Hen and Rooster Cutlery company were regarded by many as the finest producers of knives and cutlery in the world: pretty good going considering they were up against everyone in Sheffield and Solingen.
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Old 3rd April 2024, 10:24 PM   #5
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While I'm on the subject:
here is a straight razor from the late 1800s.
In case it is indiscernible, it says:
FINEST SHEFFIELD STEEL
FORGED AND REAL HOLLOW
GROUND IN GERMANY
They were sending Sheffield steel over to, presumably Solingen, and making razors for the British market.
Although I cannot link the example to Bertram, I am confident in suggesting there were Bertrams producing steel in Sheffield, then having razors made by the family in Solingen, then sending them back to the UK for sale.
As I said, Bertrams enjoyed the reputation of producing the finest steel in Europe.
At some point in the future I intend to establish this as fact.
BTW. Bertram is an Anglicised version of the Old High German Berhtraban: a Remscheid family.
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Old 3rd April 2024, 10:56 PM   #6
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just found a better example on this Gotta razor.
The Gotta razor, which used Sheffield steel, was made by Grah & Plumacher GmbH & Co. KG Stahlwarenfabrik.
Now I have to look into their history for a Bertram.
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Old 5th April 2024, 09:08 PM   #7
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Fascinating stuff at...https://www.henandrooster.com/About/ Peter Hudson.
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