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Old 18th March 2007, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Need learn more about this sword

I think this sword is beautiful but having no idea about it.

Can anyone bring more information to me? thanks a lot/






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Old 18th March 2007, 05:09 PM   #2
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Old 18th March 2007, 05:10 PM   #3
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Old 18th March 2007, 06:30 PM   #4
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The pictures are not showing up for me
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Old 18th March 2007, 06:40 PM   #5
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The pictures are not showing up for me


so sorry for pix delay, my friend. Now does it appear?
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Old 18th March 2007, 07:21 PM   #6
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The blade seems to be British, Wilkinson.
The figure on the handguard appears to have some Aztec features ( either my fantasy is running wild or the screen is blurry ).
Mexican? S. American?
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Old 18th March 2007, 07:28 PM   #7
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The pic is upside down, a bugle, ribbon and a think the crown is that used for Geogre V so ww1 ?
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Old 19th March 2007, 01:21 AM   #8
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Spot on Ariel!!!
It does indeed appear to be a Wilkinson blade, the faint vestiges of the Star of Solomon surrounding the typical brass proof plug, and particularly the serial number on the blade back support this. Wilkinson was actually the forerunner in the new form blades that replaced the old pipe back blades used on these swords.....actually this is a pattern 1827 officers sword from a British Rifle regiment (hence the Aztec powder horn and crown device in cartouche.

Since the new blade was introduced by Wilkinson in 1845, and in 1854 the hinged inner guard was replaced by solid guard.....and a serial number on a Wilkinson sword in 1872 was in the 18776 range, this sword would presumably date c.1860's. The rather flat sheet guard seems consistant with iron hilt swords I have seen of this date range as well.

The blade has of course been dramatically shortened, however the sword itself remains quite handsome, especially with the grip so intact. These swords saw considerable presence in so many British campaigns, although they were not particularly favored as a fighting weapon.

An interesting item, and with Wilkinson's, there are still means of tracing issuance via the serial numbers if I am not mistaken, probably website search.

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Old 19th March 2007, 05:14 AM   #9
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So great you three, the particulars are charming, thanks a lot.

McDougall, very appreciate your ebullient words input and powerful illustration.
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Hi Shangrila,
Thank you so much for the kind words!!! Ebullient.....wow!!! Thats an excellent word , I had to look it up!!!! and that was very nice of you to say .
All the best,
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Old 18th July 2007, 02:40 AM   #11
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I think it is an 1892 Pattern Rifle Guard Regiment sword.

I thought the dumbell cross section - as evident in the photos of your sword - was first introduced on the 1892 P, and the 1827 P only differed from the 1822 P in replacing the pipeback blade with a flatter spine? I have a 1892 P Rifle Guard sword that looks, well, exactly like this one.
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Old 18th July 2007, 02:49 AM   #12
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Welcome. Glad you decided to stop lurking.
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Welcome. Glad you decided to stop lurking.


Thanks... Nice thing about lurking is you learn a lot...
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