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Old 7th November 2023, 11:00 PM   #1
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My one with scabbard. Is this a cojang or rudus ?
Well, there you go. Thank you. Is the scabbard one piece with the open top or two halves? Does the band add a bit of a spring to hold the blade? I've read descriptions of Moro kampilan scabbards that have that feature.
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Old 8th November 2023, 02:27 AM   #2
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A stunning status sword Thomas. I love the Peurawot like throat section.

These open sheath types are quite common amongst a variety of knives and swords from the region, I'm sure some simple google image searches will turn up many.

Attached is another sword type from Sumatra, albeit a later sheath, it is of the type found with these weapons, both ceremonial, status and combat.

The knives are not typically open backed, but do carry the elaborate hooked motifs at the throat.

Here are some variants from within the Forum pages.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=33079
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...1&postcount=15
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18416
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Old 8th November 2023, 04:49 AM   #3
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Well, there you go. Thank you. Is the scabbard one piece with the open top or two halves? Does the band add a bit of a spring to hold the blade? I've read descriptions of Moro kampilan scabbards that have that feature.
2 halfs of wood without glue. The brass bands hold them together, but not so strong that there will be a springy effect
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Old 8th November 2023, 08:03 AM   #4
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I think Maurice's observation that the gliwang is never worn, but rather carried in the hand, is consistent with the scabbards we see here. Thomas's example with the slit along the top of the scabbard would make it hard to wear on the body, and keep the sword contained, and these can be reasonably long swords as well. The Moro panabas, another heavy battle weapon, tends not to have a sheath too. The blade edge sometimes had a small strip of wood with a groove that was fastened with a strip of cloth to protect the edge, and the entire weapon was usually wrapped in cloth and carried to its place of use. The edge guard and cloth were discarded when battle was engaged.

First time I've seen a slotted scabbard from Aceh. Gavin, can you show us more examples?
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Old 8th November 2023, 08:51 AM   #5
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Well, Maurices description actually was:

"It is remarkable that a gliwang never had been worn with a scabbard. It was always carried in hand and not in the belt. Sometimes the blade had been covered in palmleaf or goatskin."

Which corresponds to the earlier Albert van Zonneveld's publication: "The Co Jang is worn without a scabbard. As protection the blade may be wound in palm-leaf or goat's skin."

The carrying in the hand is already the second line of defense, so to say.

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Old 8th November 2023, 12:00 PM   #6
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se. The edge guard and cloth were discarded when battle was engaged.

First time I've seen a slotted scabbard from Aceh. Gavin, can you show us more examples?
Not at hand other than other types in close localities in the links I quickly cobbled together... as a side note, here is a Panabas scabbard for you.
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Old 8th November 2023, 04:10 PM   #7
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Two swords from Aceh with similar scabbards, one of them collected 1888, and a third one, which could be Batak and perhaps with a different kind of blade, but collected in Aceh, all in Wereldmuseum. It seems, Wereldmuseum (former Tropenmuseum) doesn't diferentiate between Co Jang and Rudus and calls them generally Rudus. These swords appear to have identical blades, as Sajen already noted.
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Old 9th November 2023, 01:57 PM   #8
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Thanks Gavin. Yes, there were occasional scabbards for panabas, but not commonly. Governor William Taft in the background of the photograph. Went on to become U.S. President after Teddy Roosevelt, and was pretty much a disaster. Later became Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
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