Id on these flintlock pistols please!

daggpil · 8th March 2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi

Don't worry, of course they are old and if you don't want them, call me!
I cracked the origin of this kind of pistol a few years ago,

They are Albanian for the North African market

please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=montenegro

Ulcinj was a town to the South of Montenegro and an Albanian centre of pistols production. The town had trade links with Egypt and Tunisia.
Albanesi traders and merceneries worked notably with egypt, Tunisa and Algeria

Post 13

GREAT NEWS! Thank you! Finally I know what they are from and can they be dated? My guess is the second half och the 18th century or beginning of 19th. Best regards/Ulrik S

Rick · 8th March 2021, 04:07 PM

It's nice to see some brethren to my example.
I would not be surprised at all Mark if some of these wound up in the hands of Barbary Corsairs.
This is the first pair that I've seen posted here since 2015; I'd guess that they're fairly uncommon.

M ELEY · 9th March 2021, 03:18 PM

Oh, I remember your amazing piece, Rick!! Remember me in your will someday!

These are amazing guns that transcend the 'rougher' examples sometimes produced in the Mediterranean for the N. African markets.

Rick · 10th March 2021, 02:08 AM

I appreciate your offer Mark.

This gun was collected by one of my ancestors, Harrison W. Smith (Uncle Harry) who has a botanical garden named for him in Tahiti.
He got around quite a bit; also wrote an article or two for the early issues of National Geographic; one on the Philippines iirc. Hopefully one of my grandsons will take an interest in it along with some of my edged weapons.

rickystl · 12th March 2021, 06:38 PM

Can't add much information that's already been posted here. But a great looking pair of pistols. The locks, while decorated, are typical of the Balkan pistol locks found on these guns.

Rick

eftihis · 1st July 2021, 07:24 AM

Same type of barell in a trombon.

1st July 2021, 07:24 AM	#6
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 501	Same type of barell in a trombon. Attached Images

8th March 2021, 04:07 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,268	It's nice to see some brethren to my example. I would not be surprised at all Mark if some of these wound up in the hands of Barbary Corsairs. This is the first pair that I've seen posted here since 2015; I'd guess that they're fairly uncommon.

9th March 2021, 03:18 PM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,076	Oh, I remember your amazing piece, Rick!! Remember me in your will someday! These are amazing guns that transcend the 'rougher' examples sometimes produced in the Mediterranean for the N. African markets.

10th March 2021, 02:08 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,268	I appreciate your offer Mark. This gun was collected by one of my ancestors, Harrison W. Smith (Uncle Harry) who has a botanical garden named for him in Tahiti. He got around quite a bit; also wrote an article or two for the early issues of National Geographic; one on the Philippines iirc. Hopefully one of my grandsons will take an interest in it along with some of my edged weapons.

12th March 2021, 06:38 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Can't add much information that's already been posted here. But a great looking pair of pistols. The locks, while decorated, are typical of the Balkan pistol locks found on these guns. Rick