silver pointer ? Dutch, oriental, judaica ?

francantolin · 17th December 2018, 05:06 PM

Hello,
I just bought this silver object,
I really liked the shape and the specials engravings : animals and characters
I don't know what it was made for,
the seller sold it as an umbrella hilt but I don't think so,
seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...)
Any advice ?
Thank you

Franck

francantolin · 17th December 2018, 05:07 PM

total length is 8,25 inches...

Thank you !!

A. G. Maisey · 17th December 2018, 07:15 PM

This is a guess, I do not know the purpose of this item.

However I have seen something similar that was the end of a long stick used to move drapes on their rod, it was all wood, it had a ring towards the point that had a cord through it, the bent point was placed against the suspension ring of the drapes, the cord was pulled on to move the drapes along the rod.

francantolin · 18th December 2018, 03:59 PM

Hello,
Thank you Maisey,

have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ?
this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end.
More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? )

Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron
but why in silver ??...

fernando · 18th December 2018, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francantolin

... seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...)...

And why not one ?

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fernando · 18th December 2018, 05:10 PM

Just for perusal, the first torah reading implements did not end with a hand finger shape, but with that of a school teacher tapering pointer.

francantolin · 18th December 2018, 05:34 PM

Seems Ok !
Thank you !!!!!

Battara · 19th December 2018, 11:31 PM

I was thinking a Torah pointer.

russel · 21st December 2018, 01:19 AM

I believe the correct term for this type of pointer is "Yad"

17th December 2018, 05:06 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 818	silver pointer ? Dutch, oriental, judaica ? Hello, I just bought this silver object, I really liked the shape and the specials engravings : animals and characters I don't know what it was made for, the seller sold it as an umbrella hilt but I don't think so, seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...) Any advice ? Thank you Franck Attached Images

17th December 2018, 05:07 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 818	total length is 8,25 inches... Thank you !!

17th December 2018, 07:15 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,700	This is a guess, I do not know the purpose of this item. However I have seen something similar that was the end of a long stick used to move drapes on their rod, it was all wood, it had a ring towards the point that had a cord through it, the bent point was placed against the suspension ring of the drapes, the cord was pulled on to move the drapes along the rod.

18th December 2018, 03:59 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 818	Hello, Thank you Maisey, have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ? this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end. More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? ) Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron but why in silver ??...

18th December 2018, 05:10 PM	#6
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Just for perusal, the first torah reading implements did not end with a hand finger shape, but with that of a school teacher tapering pointer.

18th December 2018, 05:34 PM	#7
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 818	Seems Ok ! Thank you !!!!!

19th December 2018, 11:31 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I was thinking a Torah pointer.

21st December 2018, 01:19 AM	#9
russel Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 236	I believe the correct term for this type of pointer is "Yad"