another dagger but from where ...?

Rich · 4th October 2021, 10:18 PM

Definitely not a Kauhava Puukko

TVV · 4th October 2021, 10:51 PM

It looks Indian to me, in imitation of older horse handle khanjars, though not antique.

Battara · 5th October 2021, 01:19 AM

I would agree with TVV - from India but not an antique

mariusgmioc · 5th October 2021, 10:06 AM

Indian or Pakistani, 20th century work, most likely for foreign collector/tourist market.

They are still made these days, usually with low quality pattern welded blades. Just eBay "mughal horse dagger" and you'll see what I mean. Almost all that advertise wootz blades are shameless fakes with pattern welded low quality blades.

gp · 5th October 2021, 06:59 PM

thnx a lot gents for identifying and clarifying this !

Edster · 6th October 2021, 02:35 PM

Even though the dagger is not "authentic", I find the horse's expression very appealing from maybe a folkart perspective. Art is really where you find it. Is the horse cast metal or carved wood with metal-like paint under the decorative work?

Ed

gp · 6th October 2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Edster

Even though the dagger is not "authentic", I find the horse's expression very appealing from maybe a folkart perspective. Art is really where you find it. Is the horse cast metal or carved wood with metal-like paint under the decorative work?

Ed

that (horse's expression) is what caught my attention indeed. Rather unconventional but attractive in its own way I dare say.
And the horse cast being complete metal with a reasonable price it was going going gone

Jim McDougall · 7th October 2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Edster

Even though the dagger is not "authentic", I find the horse's expression very appealing from maybe a folkart perspective. Art is really where you find it. Is the horse cast metal or carved wood with metal-like paint under the decorative work?

Ed

I really like this perspective Ed, and perfectly expressed as always.
I have never cared much for the dismissive classification 'tourist' , though I know many pieces are pretty awful in their demeanor. However items made in representation of traditional forms, and themes which are simply trying to carry forward artistic versions of the culture., seem worthy of collection and note.

5th October 2021, 10:06 AM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,882	Indian or Pakistani, 20th century work, most likely for foreign collector/tourist market. They are still made these days, usually with low quality pattern welded blades. Just eBay "mughal horse dagger" and you'll see what I mean. Almost all that advertise wootz blades are shameless fakes with pattern welded low quality blades. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 5th October 2021 at 01:01 PM.

4th October 2021, 10:18 PM	#1
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Definitely not a Kauhava Puukko

4th October 2021, 10:51 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,601	It looks Indian to me, in imitation of older horse handle khanjars, though not antique.

5th October 2021, 01:19 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,141	I would agree with TVV - from India but not an antique

5th October 2021, 06:59 PM	#5
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	thnx a lot gents for identifying and clarifying this !

6th October 2021, 02:35 PM	#6
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 401	Even though the dagger is not "authentic", I find the horse's expression very appealing from maybe a folkart perspective. Art is really where you find it. Is the horse cast metal or carved wood with metal-like paint under the decorative work? Ed