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Old 2nd November 2011, 05:43 PM   #1
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Hello there !

I did get this spear in a swap deal , but is there someone that can point me in the right direction for the origin of this one ?

I already searched in the database of the R.M.V here in Holland but I did.t find a clear match..

The length is 2.15 m

I have another one , i post it in a different post later.
Sorry for the bad photo,s , I will try to make better one,s this week.
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Old 2nd November 2011, 10:03 PM   #2
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Hello Danny, my first thoughts went to Batak, Indonesia as the brass part with those protuding knobs remind me of those long/large brass Batakpipes. This type of spearpoint is used all the way to South Philippines.
Thogh guess you thought of it being Batak aswell . . . .as you searched in the RMV collection, not?
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Old 2nd November 2011, 11:38 PM   #3
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Hello Indianajones ,

Thanks for your answer , good guess that Batak did cross my mind also
but a friend collector pointed me in the direction of Jambi ?

But when I look on rmv I cant find a clear photo with the protruding knobs.
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Old 3rd November 2011, 01:29 PM   #4
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Smile Spear in RMV collection

If you look at:
http://www.rmv.nl/collections/
and then fill in: 1239-244
you will find a spear with a similar brass part (Sumatra, Toba Batak).

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Old 3rd November 2011, 04:51 PM   #5
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Albert thank you !

Yes it has the similar bras part, so it is probably from the same area.
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Old 3rd November 2011, 07:26 PM   #6
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Hi Danny,

very nice spear! Thank you for sharing.

Regards,

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Old 4th November 2011, 09:31 AM   #7
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I have seen one on Ebay, attributed to Batak.

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Old 4th November 2011, 08:02 PM   #8
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I have seen the "balls" on the bottom of the ferrule as being Batak.
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Old 4th November 2011, 08:05 PM   #9
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Okay, I'm going to ask a stupid question (I do this a lot); has the point the appearance of being reworked ?


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Old 4th November 2011, 09:27 PM   #10
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Looks that way doesn't it?
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Old 8th November 2011, 12:03 AM   #11
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Hi Rick and Battara ,

Sorry for my late reply .

Yes I think also that the point is reshaped a time ago .


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