Tulwar with inscription - Help needed

ariel · 7th February 2023, 07:33 AM

AFAIK, the Cintamani is a mythical jewel fulfilling its owner's wishes. Trimurti in Indian mythology is a unity of three gods and is symbolized as three solid dots. It was popularized by a Russian artist and mystic Nicholas Roerich as a banner of the so-called Roerich Pact, the universal agreement to protect cultural memorials of all religions and cultures.
Picture of Roerich banner attached.

Tamerlane tamga is not a triangle of solid dots, but of rings.
See:
JTC1/SC2/WG2 N5092
2019-06-06

AHorsa · 7th February 2023, 12:51 PM

I am amazed by your comments and all that interesting information! I will need some time to sort it and to do own investigations based in your information.

I know this sword since my childhood but never paid much attention to it, as it somehow was just always there - nothing special. My father would be very happy if he knew that one of his souvenirs now attracts me so much in my field of collecting. Especially since it seems to be older than 19th century.

My father also left a diary of this trip. When I find the time I will browse it. maybe he mentions where he bought it. I would bet it was in the region where you locate the sword.

Is there some possibility to translate the inscriptions?

Thanks a lot and best wishes
Andreas

Gonzoadler · 8th February 2023, 12:36 PM

Hello,

once I had a Pulwar/Pulowar with a very similar blade and I have seen further blades like this on some other Tulwars. The eched motifs were of poor quality (like in this case) and also the blade itself was not high end.
So I think the blade is an old touristic piece (maybe early 20th c., maybe later) and the handle was added in the regional taste.
All sabers with this etched blade I have seen were of low quality and in my opinion old wall hangers.

Regards
Robin

7th February 2023, 07:33 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	AFAIK, the Cintamani is a mythical jewel fulfilling its owner's wishes. Trimurti in Indian mythology is a unity of three gods and is symbolized as three solid dots. It was popularized by a Russian artist and mystic Nicholas Roerich as a banner of the so-called Roerich Pact, the universal agreement to protect cultural memorials of all religions and cultures. Picture of Roerich banner attached. Tamerlane tamga is not a triangle of solid dots, but of rings. See: JTC1/SC2/WG2 N5092 2019-06-06 Attached Images

7th February 2023, 12:51 PM	#2
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 363	I am amazed by your comments and all that interesting information! I will need some time to sort it and to do own investigations based in your information. I know this sword since my childhood but never paid much attention to it, as it somehow was just always there - nothing special. My father would be very happy if he knew that one of his souvenirs now attracts me so much in my field of collecting. Especially since it seems to be older than 19th century. My father also left a diary of this trip. When I find the time I will browse it. maybe he mentions where he bought it. I would bet it was in the region where you locate the sword. Is there some possibility to translate the inscriptions? Thanks a lot and best wishes Andreas

8th February 2023, 12:36 PM	#3
Gonzoadler Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 239	Hello, once I had a Pulwar/Pulowar with a very similar blade and I have seen further blades like this on some other Tulwars. The eched motifs were of poor quality (like in this case) and also the blade itself was not high end. So I think the blade is an old touristic piece (maybe early 20th c., maybe later) and the handle was added in the regional taste. All sabers with this etched blade I have seen were of low quality and in my opinion old wall hangers. Regards Robin