A double handed sword

NeilUK · 6th October 2022, 12:19 AM

OK, I'll go along with the pommel, though that shape is unusual on 2-handers, and the pommel is the element most often replaced when a sword is being restored. As for the sharpness - a good repro has to be sharp otherwise it's not a good repro! I still feel that this is a repro, but a good one, and if I'm wrong then you have an even better bargain.
Neil

francantolin · 7th October 2022, 10:58 AM

Hello,
I have a question about "replacement" pommels:
I found other with the same shape ( one discussed on an old post ) on old two handed swords.
are they typical of another period that confirm these are later pieces ?
19th century ??

francantolin · 7th October 2022, 11:15 AM

I'd like to share with you the lines that appeared when I clean it another time and use this time grain 800 then 1000 again.
It is not that deep in the blade but deep enough for being revealed after a second lights sanding.
Strange lamination (?) lines or remains of drawings ?
More presents on one side but de can see them a little on both ( cf pics )
in any case it don't look like a modern damas...

Don't know if it makes it an earlier or later model...

Kind regards

BBking · 8th October 2022, 05:58 PM

An ''uraltes'' blade for break the silence !...

I hope this one will help.
same ''lines'' and blade shape ( hexagonal section ) on an old italian model of two handed sword
( this one with a stamp )/mark ...)

Jim McDougall · 8th October 2022, 07:22 PM

The marking appears to be the 'winged lion of St. Mark' as occurs on numbers of weapons from Venice and associated with the armouries of the Doge of Venice of earlier centuries.

francantolin · 9th October 2022, 05:50 PM

Thank you !!

shayde78 · 13th October 2022, 03:31 AM

Without weighing in one way or the other, I offer some images of examples out of the workshop of Ernst Schmidt of Munich.
The prices listed are in 1920s Deutsch marks.

francantolin · 13th October 2022, 08:56 PM

Thank you for these pictures ,
It s a really interesting book you have here !!
Some models really look like, especially the pommel ;
( styled on old models ??)

Does anybody know what was the value of 50 Marks on 1920 or what we could buy with this amount ?
These models seems all well made , I can't imagine they were really cheap replicas.

Crisis...
In 1923, they did wallpapers with Deutsch Marks after 2 years of devaluation..
A suitcase full of money for buy a piece of bread...

7th October 2022, 10:58 AM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 831	Hello, I have a question about "replacement" pommels: I found other with the same shape ( one discussed on an old post ) on old two handed swords. are they typical of another period that confirm these are later pieces ? 19th century ?? Attached Images

7th October 2022, 11:15 AM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 831	I'd like to share with you the lines that appeared when I clean it another time and use this time grain 800 then 1000 again. It is not that deep in the blade but deep enough for being revealed after a second lights sanding. Strange lamination (?) lines or remains of drawings ? More presents on one side but de can see them a little on both ( cf pics ) in any case it don't look like a modern damas... Don't know if it makes it an earlier or later model... Kind regards Attached Images

8th October 2022, 05:58 PM	#4
BBking Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 66	An ''uraltes'' blade for break the silence !... I hope this one will help. same ''lines'' and blade shape ( hexagonal section ) on an old italian model of two handed sword ( this one with a stamp )/mark ...) Attached Images

13th October 2022, 03:31 AM	#7
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 443	Without weighing in one way or the other, I offer some images of examples out of the workshop of Ernst Schmidt of Munich. The prices listed are in 1920s Deutsch marks. Attached Images

13th October 2022, 08:56 PM	#8
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 831	Thank you for these pictures , It s a really interesting book you have here !! Some models really look like, especially the pommel ; ( styled on old models ??) Does anybody know what was the value of 50 Marks on 1920 or what we could buy with this amount ? These models seems all well made , I can't imagine they were really cheap replicas. Crisis... In 1923, they did wallpapers with Deutsch Marks after 2 years of devaluation.. A suitcase full of money for buy a piece of bread... Attached Images

6th October 2022, 12:19 AM	#1
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 122	OK, I'll go along with the pommel, though that shape is unusual on 2-handers, and the pommel is the element most often replaced when a sword is being restored. As for the sharpness - a good repro has to be sharp otherwise it's not a good repro! I still feel that this is a repro, but a good one, and if I'm wrong then you have an even better bargain. Neil

8th October 2022, 07:22 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,785	The marking appears to be the 'winged lion of St. Mark' as occurs on numbers of weapons from Venice and associated with the armouries of the Doge of Venice of earlier centuries.

9th October 2022, 05:50 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 831	Thank you !!