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Old 7th August 2022, 03:04 PM   #1
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Old 7th August 2022, 08:18 PM   #2
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Still not seeing the "fantasy".
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Old 7th August 2022, 08:52 PM   #3
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Really Marco?

Or perhaps you mean in the archaic sense:- "with sense" (Oxford)
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Really Marco?

Or perhaps you mean in the archaic sense:- "with sense" (Oxford)
yes, fantasies hilt are different.. but I think that all the hilts posted till now in this Apolaki post-page are not fantasies.
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Old 8th August 2022, 02:08 PM   #5
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yes, fantasies hilt are different.. but I think that all the hilts posted till now in this Apolaki post-page are not fantasies.
But why do you identify the hilts you posted as "two fantasies" then?
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Old 8th August 2022, 06:47 PM   #6
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I wrote thinking about what Jean had written. I thought you understood. Instead I was wrong O
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Old 9th August 2022, 12:39 AM   #7
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Hello Apolaki and everyone,

As far as I am concerned, the two rightmost handles are known as deder lempuyangan from Jogja. Lempuyang is a type of ginger and the hilt supposedly resemble the flower of the plant.

The one with the snake is known as deder sirah sawer. Sirah means head and sawer means snake. So sirah sawer means snake head.

Different people may call the hilts by different names.

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Old 9th August 2022, 01:44 PM   #8
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I wrote thinking about what Jean had written. I thought you understood. Instead I was wrong O
Thanks Marco. Perhaps a wink would have help me understand you were joking.
Is that first hilt you posted whale bone?
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Old 9th August 2022, 07:02 PM   #9
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Wow thanks for sharing the photos Marco! I wonder if I were to polish my versions would they eventually become halus like yours? joking of course
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Old 10th August 2022, 12:20 AM   #10
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I agree, it's most likely Whale bone.
We find old Pilot whale (Blackfish) bones in the salt marsh we live on the edge of. These bones have lots of 'pores' visible.
Pilot whales strand on the barrier beach during the Fall and used to wash over into the marsh after storms; now the town comes out with a bulldozer and buries them.
Kino has a kampilan with a whale bone handle and guard.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...+bone+kampilan
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