Indonesian ? nice / raw Sword

[francantolin]

It didn't cost two pence but I think it's not a bad one...
I forgot: razor blade edge,

Kind regards

[kai]

Hello Franc,

Thanks for the additional pics!

They confirm our earlier thoughts: Blade, horn hilt, and scabbard are genuine and also exhibit the expected wear of a 19th c. piece; I still believe the light streaks at the pommel to be much later additions. Aceh blades like this sikin panjang or peudeueng pajang are known to be usually very well forged and of high quality - an etch will tell a bit more but is not mandatory at all. The scabbard is of above-average quality and almost certain to originate from Aceh proper; try to look for inscriptions while carefully nourishing and cleaning the wood. More on the calyx later.

It isn't a bad piece - let me repeat: This certainly is an interesting grab!

Let me know if you ever get tired of it...

Regards,
Kai

[Battara]

It does look to me based on the patina and color hue that the triple crown at the base is brass.

[francantolin]

Thank you Kai for your kind message !
The infos are really helpful !

For the brass(?) 3+ crowns,
I just wonder if the all gold mounted multi crowns sikin panjangs were just ceremonials weapons ( with the ivory scabbard...)

and the brass mounted, less soft than gold , for ''real battle weapons''
as the samuraïs did when they alternate the koshirae on their swords
between battle/ceremonial

I read too about suasa gold and the islamic position about to much gold on weapons, maybe there is a clue here ?...

[francantolin]

Here three other pictures for share,

The whole sword, with daylight pictures, always better...

and one of the scabbard as you mentioned Kai,
with interesting inscriptions, the shape for an islamic sourate but no text/ sentences...
talismanic ?

Kind regards

[kai]

Hello Franc,

Thanks for the additional pics!

How thoroughly did you clean the calyx? Please check whether the dark recesses of the motifs hold remnants of enamel or plain dirt...

Originally Posted by francantolin

and one of the scabbard as you mentioned Kai,
with interesting inscriptions, the shape for an islamic sourate but no text/ sentences...
talismanic ?

That's the widely held default assumption.

Nothing on the backside?

Regards,
Kai

[francantolin]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Franc,

Thanks for the additional pics!

How thoroughly did you clean the calyx? Please check whether the dark recesses of the motifs hold remnants of enamel or plain dirt...



That's the widely held default assumption.

Nothing on the backside?

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

No, nothing on the other side, ( except floral design ...)

For the calyx, no enamel under the dark dirt,
same structure-color than the first crown.

Kind regards