Nice little Sumatran (?) dagger for sharing & comment

[kino]

Love that blade.
What does “batu lapak” mean?
Thanks for sharing

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kino

Love that blade.
What does “batu lapak” mean?
Thanks for sharing

Hello Albert,

Batu lapak is called the curl pamor at the base of the blade. "Batu" means stone/rock but I sadly can't translate "lapak".

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Nice one! Love the batu lapak. Always a favourite pamor motif of mine.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

Nice one! Love the batu lapak. Always a favourite pamor motif of mine.

Thanks David!

[A. G. Maisey]

The word "lapak" is Javanese, it carries the meaning of "saddle" in the Ngoko level of this language; the Krama Inggil level is "kambil".

I am not inclined to give this motif shown as Batu Lapak, BL is not a full circle, it is like this pamor but has a part of the circle of swirls cut off to produce a flat base that ends at the blade base. In many, if not all, examples of BL that I have seen the BL has been produced by the pesi being welded to the body of the blade.

I would give this present pamor as Kul Buntet, this pamor is not encountered as often as BL, it is regarded by most people as being a more esoterically powerful pamor and of higher status.

The esoteric value of KB is taken to be the same as BL, but more powerful, these values are that those who carry this pamor will become powerful & rich, they will have a great number of beautiful women & they will live in a peaceful home. It is a royal pamor and should be treated as having the nature of a pusaka.

All this esoteric value relates to KB being located in a Javanese keris, I do not know the esoteric value if it is found in anything other than a Javanese keris.

So --- congratulations Detlef, you might be about to become incredibly wealthy and have more women than you know what to do with.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The word "lapak" is Javanese, it carries the meaning of "saddle" in the Ngoko level of this language; the Krama Inggil level is "kambil".

I am not inclined to give this motif shown as Batu Lapak, BL is not a full circle, it is like this pamor but has a part of the circle of swirls cut off to produce a flat base that ends at the blade base. In many, if not all, examples of BL that I have seen the BL has been produced by the pesi being welded to the body of the blade.

I would give this present pamor as Kul Buntet, this pamor is not encountered as often as BL, it is regarded by most people as being a more esoterically powerful pamor and of higher status.

The esoteric value of KB is taken to be the same as KB, but more powerful, these values are that those who carry this pamor will become powerful & rich, they will have a great number of beautiful women & they will live in a peaceful home. It is a royal pamor and should be treated as having the nature of a pusaka.

All this esoteric value relates to KB being located in a Javanese keris, I do not know the esoteric value if it is found in anything other than a Javanese keris.

So --- congratulations Detlef, you might be about to become incredibly wealthy and have more women than you know what to do with.

Hello Alan,

I strongly doubt that I will become very wealthy in my life and I have my reasonable doubt that I am able to handle at my age more as one woman!

And thank you for the translation, now I understand the meaning, the stone saddle for the pesi!

And I should have known the difference between "Batu Lapak" and "Kul Buntet".

The first and second picture show a "BL" and the third some sort of "KB"!

Regards,
Detlef