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galvano · 20th October 2023, 10:31 AM

Hello
Thank you, but how old is he?

TVV · 21st October 2023, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by galvano

Hello
Thank you, but how old is he?

Good question, and one that is not so easy to answer. Per Elgood, it appears the Ottomans adopted the miquelet lock sometime in the 17th century. According to North, the characteristic form of the stock butt was also developed around the same time, early 17th century. Finally, a little book published by the Royal Armories shows an Ottoman matchlock gun, formerly in the Tirri collection and dates it to the 17th century.

So my guess is 1600s.

galvano · 23rd October 2023, 12:19 PM

thanks for your answer, but is it that old?
I think I see in oxidation a damascus cannon !
galvano

That's for sure, it is a complex damascus

galvano · 23rd October 2023, 05:14 PM

new photo

TVV · 23rd October 2023, 06:52 PM

Yes, beautiful damascus barrel, just a very nice gun overall. As for the age, I gave my guess based on what I know, though I am most certainly not an expert. Ottoman matchlocks are not common, as as a result collectors are not as familiar with them as with miquelet lock guns. This is why others may not have responded yet.

galvano · 23rd October 2023, 09:17 PM

I discovered 2 marks in the gilding
I'm going to put pictures tomorrow

galvano · 24th October 2023, 10:52 AM

marks

20th October 2023, 10:31 AM	#1
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177	rifle Hello Thank you, but how old is he?

23rd October 2023, 12:19 PM	#3
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177	rifle thanks for your answer, but is it that old? I think I see in oxidation a damascus cannon ! galvano That's for sure, it is a complex damascus Last edited by galvano; 23rd October 2023 at 04:19 PM.

23rd October 2023, 05:14 PM	#4
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177	rifle damascus new photo Attached Images

23rd October 2023, 09:17 PM	#6
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177	gilding I discovered 2 marks in the gilding I'm going to put pictures tomorrow

24th October 2023, 10:52 AM	#7
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 177	pictures marks Attached Images

23rd October 2023, 06:52 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,602	Yes, beautiful damascus barrel, just a very nice gun overall. As for the age, I gave my guess based on what I know, though I am most certainly not an expert. Ottoman matchlocks are not common, as as a result collectors are not as familiar with them as with miquelet lock guns. This is why others may not have responded yet.