First posting/ Opinion asked, Possibly Execution tool?

broadaxe · 26th February 2018, 12:02 PM

A general statement: lots of these have, surprisingly, popped out in the market along the last 3-2 years. I had a chance to examine two different swords firsthand and I don't have a definitive decision. They appear well made, good weight & balance, nice patina. But the large relative amount of them makes me wonder.

Those of you who sign with Facebook or Google+ may want to read my earlier article on such sword, here (I have some other papers there):
https://www.academia.edu/26655980/A_...Justice_indeed

Helleri · 1st March 2018, 08:31 PM

Is the pommel threaded on (looks peened but maybe not); And if so can we get pics of the threading?

Newbie Grandpa · 2nd March 2018, 02:44 PM

I dont dare try try to take it to parts, because I think that " grip " or hadle part would fell apart + I dont know how to do it. Maybe with large blumbers tools.

Anyway , here is some photos of end part. I suppose that it is not thread, or at least end part some way "feels" like it would be forged or hammered, to attach end of blade to it. I could not see if tiny coffee bean side last round part is part of pommel, or separate part

Helleri · 3rd March 2018, 12:24 AM

Doesn't really look like that pommel is peened on. Looks more capped to me. Like the actual tang of the blade is peened under it. That's some fairly decent wire work as well on the handle. Balded as well which likely means it was handled a lot in my estimation.

corrado26 · 3rd March 2018, 05:29 PM

During a spring auction 2015 of a German auction house a sword of justice in the style of 17th/18th century has been sold. The hilt of it is in my eyes very similar to the piece in question.
corrado26

1st March 2018, 08:31 PM	#2
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Boulder Creek, CA. Posts: 202	Is the pommel threaded on (looks peened but maybe not); And if so can we get pics of the threading? Last edited by Helleri; 1st March 2018 at 11:03 PM.

2nd March 2018, 02:44 PM	#3
Newbie Grandpa Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6	Pommel photos I dont dare try try to take it to parts, because I think that " grip " or hadle part would fell apart + I dont know how to do it. Maybe with large blumbers tools. Anyway , here is some photos of end part. I suppose that it is not thread, or at least end part some way "feels" like it would be forged or hammered, to attach end of blade to it. I could not see if tiny coffee bean side last round part is part of pommel, or separate part Attached Images

3rd March 2018, 05:29 PM	#5
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,171	During a spring auction 2015 of a German auction house a sword of justice in the style of 17th/18th century has been sold. The hilt of it is in my eyes very similar to the piece in question. corrado26 Attached Images

26th February 2018, 12:02 PM	#1
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 332	A general statement: lots of these have, surprisingly, popped out in the market along the last 3-2 years. I had a chance to examine two different swords firsthand and I don't have a definitive decision. They appear well made, good weight & balance, nice patina. But the large relative amount of them makes me wonder. Those of you who sign with Facebook or Google+ may want to read my earlier article on such sword, here (I have some other papers there): https://www.academia.edu/26655980/A_...Justice_indeed

3rd March 2018, 12:24 AM	#4
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Boulder Creek, CA. Posts: 202	Doesn't really look like that pommel is peened on. Looks more capped to me. Like the actual tang of the blade is peened under it. That's some fairly decent wire work as well on the handle. Balded as well which likely means it was handled a lot in my estimation.