Persian Shamshir fullering techniques and their Afghan imitations

[David R]

I see that fuller style as being more Central Asian or even Chinese in origin.

[mariusgmioc]

Yep, like Serdar and David said earlier, Persian blades had no fullers. The fullers where a characteristic of Central Asian and North Indian blades.

However, Persian blades were traded and could have fullers added later, in local Central Asian workshops.

Regarding your blades, I believe the first one is late 19th century North Indian, because of the style of the damascening cartridges, and because of the fullers. Also the fact it is not wootz (apparently) and the configuration of the scabbard with European style chape appear to indicate later production.

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by David R

I see that fuller style as being more Central Asian or even Chinese in origin.

those types of fullers are introdueced to china from iran and the persian domain, caucasus and central asia .

[David R]

Originally Posted by ausjulius

those types of fullers are introdueced to china from iran and the persian domain, caucasus and central asia .

Evidence?

[Bob A]

Were you able to ascertain whether there was any similarity if the inscriptions between the two swirds?

Insofar as the Afghan example seems to have copied, rather than originated, the fuller design, and with the disparate origins and levels of sophistication between the two, I wonder where/how an Afghan bladesmith might have had access to an example to copy.

Further examples of this fuller style would be appreciated, if anyone can post them up.