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Old 20th November 2022, 04:43 PM   #1
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I am reading the inscription as "За Отличие въ Турецкой Войне", meaning "For Distinguishment in the Turkish War". To me, it is suspicious.
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Old 21st November 2022, 01:12 PM   #2
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I am reading the inscription as "За Отличие въ Турецкой Войне", meaning "For Distinguishment in the Turkish War". To me, it is suspicious.
Ah, cool! But yeah, that does sound like the kind of thing you'd put on a forgery or tourist piece. Maybe some cheeky Georgian thought he did OK in that war and etched his own (or a war trophy) blade? P

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i looked at the better pics and suddenly it dawned on me: ” за отличие в турецкой войне”.
I was so proud of myself and scrolled down the page to publish my momentous discovery when I saw Teodor’s post….

Well, I got silver:-)))


Or, as the Russians used to report the results of a duel between the American and the Russian runners: “Our runner came second and the American one came barely before the last”.
Hah, well I consider it a collective effort.

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Say whatever you want, the handle and the crossguard are typical Georgian.
True. Although the kilij blade is not very typical if I'm not mistaken? Perhaps it's a remounted blade.

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Yours looks like a Shamshir grip and gaurd while the blade is a Kilij. Is it possible your blade was modified to resemble a Kilij?
I doubt that. It's got the typical T-section and it isn't an overly clunky one. It seems it was made this way, at least.
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Old 21st November 2022, 04:07 PM   #3
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I suspect the inspiration for the etching came from signs, given to members of the Bulgarian Militia after the war. Not sure, but I suspect there was similar Russian insignia, on which the Bulgarian was based. The cross over a crescent is also a symbol of the victory in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War. The blade may be an authentic old blade, which has been "enhanced" in this manner and put into new, inaccurate dress.
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Old 21st November 2022, 11:04 PM   #4
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Hah, that definitely looks familiar! Funny... I assumed that cross over crescent to be a combination of a cross and an anchor, as in naval markings (especially since the blade is also blued).
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Old 23rd November 2022, 12:25 PM   #5
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i would venture that the smaller of the two originally posted by ASPaulding may well be Egyptian.
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i would venture that the smaller of the two originally posted by ASPaulding may well be Egyptian.
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Interesting! What distinguishes the Egyptian ones from the rest?
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Old 25th November 2022, 05:19 PM   #7
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I'm sorry, I did write a reply, but it did not want to submit, and now I've lost it.
Will try again later.
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