Show us your Powder flask - Page 2

Kubur · 8th April 2015, 07:55 PM

I see one like yours in Tirri's book.
But this poor Tirri did few mistakes.
Look in Elgood "Arms of Arabia" page 50, you have one like yours from Oman.
If you have the same type between Pakistan, Iran and Oman.
I would say that this powder flask is Balutch.
The Omani had a lot of Balutch soldiers during the 19th c.
Ibrahim should help us for that!!!

kahnjar1 · 8th April 2015, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

I see one like yours in Tirri's book.
But this poor Tirri did few mistakes.
Look in Elgood "Arms of Arabia" page 50, you have one like yours from Oman.
If you have the same type between Pakistan, Iran and Oman.
I would say that this powder flask is Balutch.
The Omani had a lot of Balutch soldiers during the 19th c.
Ibrahim should help us for that!!!

I think we all probably agree that there are mistakes in Tirri's book, as there are in other publications, but then we are all still learning.
The item shown on page 50 of Elgood's book is indeed very similar to that shown by Fernando, BUT the text does not mention Oman, simply that the items shown are 19th century. No mention is made as to origin.
Stu

stelio · 8th April 2015, 10:37 PM

My opinion is that it has a container for oil cleaning that had for weapons.They think it's middle East in 19 century, maybe from Iran.I think that type use from all middle east area(ottoman empire,balkan country's ,arabia,Persia .

fernando · 10th April 2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I think we all probably agree that there are mistakes in Tirri's book, as there are in other publications, but then we are all still learning.
The item shown on page 50 of Elgood's book is indeed very similar to that shown by Fernando, BUT the text does not mention Oman, simply that the items shown are 19th century. No mention is made as to origin.
Stu

So where are we getting at, Stu ?
Can i not (even) call it a Barut Dan ?

Kubur · 10th April 2015, 06:46 PM

Yes there is no mention of the origin but the objects of the whole set are from Oman. So I think your powder flask is from Oman or Balutchistan...

kahnjar1 · 10th April 2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

Yes there is no mention of the origin but the objects of the whole set are from Oman. So I think your powder flask is from Oman or Balutchistan...

Could be either but there is a huge distance between the two places. Balutchistan (a part of Pakistan) borders modern day Iran which of course was called Persia......a VERY long way from Oman.
The fact that the pic shows mostly Omani objects does not CONCLUSIVELY mean that they are ALL Omani.
Stone's Glossary shows this general shape as being from Persia and another similar shape as being from Sudan, so perhaps the shape was a rather universal one in the greater region............
IBRAHIIM WE NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE
Stu

8th April 2015, 10:37 PM	#3
stelio Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 97	My opinion is that it has a container for oil cleaning that had for weapons.They think it's middle East in 19 century, maybe from Iran.I think that type use from all middle east area(ottoman empire,balkan country's ,arabia,Persia . Last edited by stelio; 8th April 2015 at 11:09 PM.

8th April 2015, 07:55 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I see one like yours in Tirri's book. But this poor Tirri did few mistakes. Look in Elgood "Arms of Arabia" page 50, you have one like yours from Oman. If you have the same type between Pakistan, Iran and Oman. I would say that this powder flask is Balutch. The Omani had a lot of Balutch soldiers during the 19th c. Ibrahim should help us for that!!!

10th April 2015, 06:46 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Yes there is no mention of the origin but the objects of the whole set are from Oman. So I think your powder flask is from Oman or Balutchistan...