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Battara · 31st March 2010, 12:34 AM

Well, the scabbard would be one where there would not be a separate wranga like in some Moro pieces. The picture below is an example of what I am talking about (from another recent thread). Would it have had silver pieces on it - could not say without a little more research.

By the way - I doubt the wrap on it now is the original. Would have to take a personal look and some research of the region to see what might have been originally there.

Henk · 31st March 2010, 04:24 PM

Thanks Battara, for your efforts. Now I know what scabbard this one should need. The bindngs on mine aren't original as well. Just copper wire.

ThePepperSkull · 31st March 2010, 09:48 PM

I have always wondered about the top part of the scabbard/scabbard mouth on Keris Sundang Melayu. That black band -- is that horn? It reminds me of the koiguchi of a katana's saya, which is also placed at the mouth of the saya and made of black horn.

Battara · 31st March 2010, 10:32 PM

When one it present, yes it is horn.

buendia · 31st March 2010, 11:29 PM

What a beauty - when you are going to sell this one send me a note!

Alam Shah · 1st April 2010, 01:10 AM

Henk, this is a 'sundang kapit', a Peninsular Malay form.. the whole construction is original, as Battara mentioned. Congratulations! nice find..

Henk · 1st April 2010, 07:57 PM

Alam Shah,

Thank you for your input and indentification. I'm very happy happy with it. It is a great weapon.

31st March 2010, 12:34 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	Well, the scabbard would be one where there would not be a separate wranga like in some Moro pieces. The picture below is an example of what I am talking about (from another recent thread). Would it have had silver pieces on it - could not say without a little more research. By the way - I doubt the wrap on it now is the original. Would have to take a personal look and some research of the region to see what might have been originally there. Attached Images

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31st March 2010, 04:24 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Thanks Battara, for your efforts. Now I know what scabbard this one should need. The bindngs on mine aren't original as well. Just copper wire.

31st March 2010, 09:48 PM	#3
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	I have always wondered about the top part of the scabbard/scabbard mouth on Keris Sundang Melayu. That black band -- is that horn? It reminds me of the koiguchi of a katana's saya, which is also placed at the mouth of the saya and made of black horn.

31st March 2010, 10:32 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	When one it present, yes it is horn.

31st March 2010, 11:29 PM	#5
buendia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Silesia, Poland Posts: 41	What a beauty - when you are going to sell this one send me a note!

1st April 2010, 01:10 AM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Henk, this is a 'sundang kapit', a Peninsular Malay form.. the whole construction is original, as Battara mentioned. Congratulations! nice find..

1st April 2010, 07:57 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Alam Shah, Thank you for your input and indentification. I'm very happy happy with it. It is a great weapon.