Butcher Bayonet (Sawback)

asomotif · 7th March 2010, 08:41 PM

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have always assumed this example was issued to the Bavarian 5th Regiment, I'd like to take this opportunity to find out

Dug up this old thread again.

Norman, The big crowned "L" is from Ludwig, making is Bavarian for sure.
See this website : http://www.worldbayonets.com/Misc__P..._markings.html

5 R. : being 5th regiment sounds logical.

I will post some more pics shortly.

best regards,
Willem

Norman McCormick · 8th March 2010, 07:09 PM

Hi Willem,
Many thanks for the info re the bayonet. The 15 below the crowned L would suggest, as you rightly say, Ludwig III of Bavaria (1913-1918) with a date of 1915 for the bayonet itself. The enigma is the crowned K which appears below the crowned L suggesting Karl of Wurttemberg (1864-1891) on a 1898/05 bayonet !!!! Any ideas gratefully accepted

My Regards,
Norman.

celtan · 9th March 2010, 02:05 AM

Older "surplus" blade in a "new" mount...?

I have seen Charles III 18th C blades in 19th C swords...

M

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Willem,
Many thanks for the info re the bayonet. The 15 below the crowned L would suggest, as you rightly say, Ludwig III of Bavaria (1913-1918) with a date of 1915 for the bayonet itself. The enigma is the crowned K which appears below the crowned L suggesting Karl of Wurttemberg (1864-1891) on a 1898/05 bayonet !!!! Any ideas gratefully accepted

My Regards,
Norman.

junker · 9th March 2010, 08:13 PM

Hi,
coming back to the first question about the tale of the sawtooth.
I have seen a bayo in an auction from which the sawtooth was removed.
But i would agree with Jim that it was in fact more unpractical to leave the weapon and this was the reason why.
Dirk

asomotif · 10th March 2010, 12:49 AM

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I have seen a bayo in an auction from which the sawtooth was removed.

Like this one :

junker · 12th March 2010, 07:59 PM

yes, exactly like this
Dirk

tom hyle · 2nd April 2010, 01:55 AM

It is interesting to note that medieval European carpentry saws often had a sword-like hilt, similar to modern Japanese saws, but apparently often with a round handguard.

8th March 2010, 07:09 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,644	Hi Willem, Many thanks for the info re the bayonet. The 15 below the crowned L would suggest, as you rightly say, Ludwig III of Bavaria (1913-1918) with a date of 1915 for the bayonet itself. The enigma is the crowned K which appears below the crowned L suggesting Karl of Wurttemberg (1864-1891) on a 1898/05 bayonet !!!! Any ideas gratefully accepted My Regards, Norman. Attached Images Last edited by Norman McCormick; 8th March 2010 at 07:31 PM.

9th March 2010, 08:13 PM	#4
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	removed sawtooth Hi, coming back to the first question about the tale of the sawtooth. I have seen a bayo in an auction from which the sawtooth was removed. But i would agree with Jim that it was in fact more unpractical to leave the weapon and this was the reason why. Dirk

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12th March 2010, 07:59 PM	#6
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	yes, exactly like this Dirk

2nd April 2010, 01:55 AM	#7
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	It is interesting to note that medieval European carpentry saws often had a sword-like hilt, similar to modern Japanese saws, but apparently often with a round handguard.