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Old 6th January 2010, 01:28 AM   #1
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The first crossbow shown is missing its roller nut (holds the 'string' before release via the trigger) Dmitry I think the 'hole' left is what you are mistaking for a stone/ball 'holder'.
The metalwork to which I think you are refering to Fernando, is a spring catch (sprung steel) pivoted on the screw 180 degrees it holts the bolt in place, if firing downwards (without this the bolt will just slide off) Think: shooting down from battlements.
Due to the ornate work on both these crossbows, it is extremely likely they were for hunting. War x-bows tend to be more utilitarian.

Both fantastic pieces.

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Old 6th January 2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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Thank you David; didn't think of that .
You see, it's the only part which is not ornated, not in harmony with the rest .
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Thank you David; didn't think of that .
You see, it's the only part which is not ornated, not in harmony with the rest .
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I have just had a look to pictures of cross bows, some with same origin and similar decoration as these ones.
None had this catch device. Besides, once they were hunting versions, they would hardly need to be shot in an inclined position, right?
Couldn't have this thing been a later addition?
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I have just had a look to pictures of cross bows, some with same origin and similar decoration as these ones.
None had this catch device. Besides, once they were hunting versions, they would hardly need to be shot in an inclined position, right?
Couldn't have this thing been a later addition?
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Hi Fernando ,
it could be a later addition....but some hunting crossbows could be used from horseback. The rack and pinion 'cocking' device would enable reloading without dismounting, which this particular crossbow uses.

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Old 6th January 2010, 09:17 PM   #5
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Hi 'Nando,
here is another hunting crossbow, German circa 1590 that is in the V&A museum. Notice the screw....it would have no other function than to 'hold' the spring catch ....which now seems to be missing.

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Is that dark spot the same thing?
This is a nice Bavarian specimen from the Dresden Museum
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This one apparently has a different mechanism, probably because is a more 'modern' specimen.
Dated end XVII century, belonged to the Portuguese Dukes of Bragança.
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