Gilded and painted Keris for viewing

Marcokeris · 19th November 2009, 01:35 PM

Very hard in Bali to find, in my experience, so nice dress.
(price ...are really very high

)

Sajen · 19th November 2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Very hard in Bali to find, in my experience, so nice dress.
(price ...are really very high

)

This I can confirm! All four are very nice!

David · 19th November 2009, 06:43 PM

Can anyone speak to the place of these painted sheaths culturally? Where these reserved for specific societal stations or could anyone own one?

A. G. Maisey · 20th November 2009, 03:37 AM

We're looking at Bali keris here, I cannot answer this question. However, for Javanese keris, although some particular person, such as cantung balung, or an actor, may wear a sunggingan keris, nobles also wear them on some occasions, the colour of the sunggingan work and pendok being designated to the rank of the wearer.

I've got a pretty fair small collection of quality sunggingan keris, I'm a bit busy right now, but as soon as I get a chance I'll make some pics available

Sajen · 20th November 2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Can anyone speak to the place of these painted sheaths culturally? Where these reserved for specific societal stations or could anyone own one?

1994 I have seen one in an antique shop in Klungkung for sale. When I come back two days later the owner have rent it to someone who want to be married.

Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 21st November 2009, 01:03 AM

In Bali marriage keris are usually the most flamboyant that one can afford. I know one Bali bloke who virtually mortgaged his house to put together a glorious keris for his marriage. Gold, emeralds, rubies --- chocolate layer cake with cream and cherries. After his marriage it took him several years to sell it at a loss. It was offered to me, but I could not afford it.

Gavin Nugent · 14th December 2009, 01:21 PM

Another Bali Sunggingan

A better group of images of the one above.

I will enjoy viewing more diversity in these pieces when you get to yours Alan.

Enjoy.

Gav

A. G. Maisey · 14th December 2009, 10:42 PM

This is nice art work, but I most sincerely doubt that this type of Balinese sunggingan work is traditional. It is the most popular style for newly done sungging work that is specifically offered to collectors. I have never seen an old sunggingan scabbard with this style of decoration --- or more correctly, I have never seen old sunggingan work of this style.

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Another for viewing Another Bali Sunggingan A better group of images of the one above. I will enjoy viewing more diversity in these pieces when you get to yours Alan. Enjoy. Gav Attached Images

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19th November 2009, 01:35 PM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Very hard in Bali to find, in my experience, so nice dress. (price ...are really very high )

19th November 2009, 06:43 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Can anyone speak to the place of these painted sheaths culturally? Where these reserved for specific societal stations or could anyone own one?

20th November 2009, 03:37 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	We're looking at Bali keris here, I cannot answer this question. However, for Javanese keris, although some particular person, such as cantung balung, or an actor, may wear a sunggingan keris, nobles also wear them on some occasions, the colour of the sunggingan work and pendok being designated to the rank of the wearer. I've got a pretty fair small collection of quality sunggingan keris, I'm a bit busy right now, but as soon as I get a chance I'll make some pics available

21st November 2009, 01:03 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	In Bali marriage keris are usually the most flamboyant that one can afford. I know one Bali bloke who virtually mortgaged his house to put together a glorious keris for his marriage. Gold, emeralds, rubies --- chocolate layer cake with cream and cherries. After his marriage it took him several years to sell it at a loss. It was offered to me, but I could not afford it.

14th December 2009, 10:42 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	This is nice art work, but I most sincerely doubt that this type of Balinese sunggingan work is traditional. It is the most popular style for newly done sungging work that is specifically offered to collectors. I have never seen an old sunggingan scabbard with this style of decoration --- or more correctly, I have never seen old sunggingan work of this style.