Just Ended On Ebay

kronckew · 9th February 2009, 06:59 AM

wonder at the timing:

ebay illegal knife sales reviewed

the tone of the article is of course slanted a bit...

reading some of the other sidebar articles, they seem surprised that after outlawing law-abiding people from owning guns, that knife crime went up. (knife crime also includes the illegal use of a knife to defend yourself or just carrying one that the police don't like). when they outlaw knives, they'll be surprised that baseball bat crime goes up, when they outlaw bats, they'll....ad infinitum. another article exposes some of the creative use of statistics.

not unexpectedly, on the same news pages,
man shot outside school

shows how effective banning a tool is, criminals can always buy them on the black market.

kronckew · 9th February 2009, 09:01 PM

well, the other shoe has dropped.

seems my last post was a lead-in for tonites 'watchdog' consumer affairs program. watchdog imported a number of knives from the states which are illegal here, by purchasing them thru ebay in the states.

because they imported them illegally, they are not going to be prosecuted and punished, but we are. ebay in a knee-jerk reaction is terminating the sale of ALL knives, with an exception for domestic cutlery starting tonite. all existing listing will be removed overr the next few weeks.

i did not see any mention of an exemption for collectors or antique knives/swords, etc.

ah, well - the end of a good source. and the UK takes another step into the dark side.

Berkley · 9th February 2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

***Change to policy regarding sale of knives on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie*** 09 February, 2009 | 08:00PM GMT We wanted to inform you of a change to our policies regarding the sale of knives. All knives except cutlery will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. This will impact UK, Irish and international sellers who currently list knives for sale to buyers on the eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie sites. Over the last year we have made several changes to our policies regarding sales of knives and also Samurai swords to ensure that only legal knives are available on the UK and Irish sites. However, the criteria for what constitutes a legal knife are increasingly complex, and this step is necessary to help further protect our members and provide them with the highest safety standards. We will be updating this AB post shortly to ensure that any sellers of knives have full notice, details and timings for the changes. Thank you for your support in continuing to make eBay such a vibrant and trusted marketplace. Regards, The eBay Team

Vibrant and trusted marketplace for name-brand consumer electronics, gadgets and baubles. Arid desert for the collector.

Rick · 9th February 2009, 09:32 PM

So sick of this ...

A fantastic source, shut off just like that .

Coming from the West side of the pond; I have a real hard time wth this bull puckey you fellows over there have to put up with .

Paging Guy Fawkes ...

Atlantia · 10th February 2009, 10:52 AM

I fear that the reason there is no mention of an exemption for antiques is that there will not be one.

What a fecking joke eBay has become!
So how exactly will they stop people logging into the .com site and buying anything they want from US users or for that matter the myriad of cheap truly offensive 'knives' that chinese sellers will of course still be listing?

No, the only people this will hurt are the UK collectors.

9th February 2009, 06:59 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,228	wonder at the timing: ebay illegal knife sales reviewed the tone of the article is of course slanted a bit... reading some of the other sidebar articles, they seem surprised that after outlawing law-abiding people from owning guns, that knife crime went up. (knife crime also includes the illegal use of a knife to defend yourself or just carrying one that the police don't like). when they outlaw knives, they'll be surprised that baseball bat crime goes up, when they outlaw bats, they'll....ad infinitum. another article exposes some of the creative use of statistics. not unexpectedly, on the same news pages, man shot outside school shows how effective banning a tool is, criminals can always buy them on the black market. Last edited by kronckew; 9th February 2009 at 07:11 AM.

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9th February 2009, 09:01 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,228	well, the other shoe has dropped. seems my last post was a lead-in for tonites 'watchdog' consumer affairs program. watchdog imported a number of knives from the states which are illegal here, by purchasing them thru ebay in the states. because they imported them illegally, they are not going to be prosecuted and punished, but we are. ebay in a knee-jerk reaction is terminating the sale of ALL knives, with an exception for domestic cutlery starting tonite. all existing listing will be removed overr the next few weeks. i did not see any mention of an exemption for collectors or antique knives/swords, etc. ah, well - the end of a good source. and the UK takes another step into the dark side.

9th February 2009, 09:32 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	So sick of this ... A fantastic source, shut off just like that . Coming from the West side of the pond; I have a real hard time wth this bull puckey you fellows over there have to put up with . Paging Guy Fawkes ...

10th February 2009, 10:52 AM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I fear that the reason there is no mention of an exemption for antiques is that there will not be one. What a fecking joke eBay has become! So how exactly will they stop people logging into the .com site and buying anything they want from US users or for that matter the myriad of cheap truly offensive 'knives' that chinese sellers will of course still be listing? No, the only people this will hurt are the UK collectors.