Help With a Moro Mystery Blade

CharlesS · 25th January 2009, 06:13 PM

Robert, please see my revised post.

Vandoo, while it is logical to draw comparisons of this one to a pira, I do not believe it actually is a pira. The hilt looks like a rather typical barong simple jungayyan style to me.

kino · 25th January 2009, 07:38 PM

A very nice and unusual blade. A departure from the norm. Never seen one like it. Could it be a customer specefied blade shape. A European could have oredered it...????
Congrats on a great find.

VANDOO · 25th January 2009, 07:39 PM

TRUE IT IS NOT A PIRA OR A BANGKUNG BUT IT SHOWS INFLUENCE FROM BOTH AND HAS FEATURES SIMULAR TO BOTH. IT MAY HAVE BEEN FASHIONED AFTER SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY OR PATTERENED AFTER SOMETHING ON ONE OF THE MORO WEAPONS PLACKS. THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE WOULD BE TO ASK THE PERSON WHO MADE IT WHAT HE CALLED IT. THAT NOT BEING POSSIBLE ALL WE CAN DO IS RELY ON SURMIZE, GUESS AND LOGICAL COMPARISONS WHICH MAY BE ACCURATE OR NOT.

AT ANY RATE THE PERSON WHO MADE IT KNEW HIS BUSINESS AND DID A VERY GOOD JOB. THE REASON I GAVE THE INFORMATION AND ORIGIN ON MY GROUP OF SWORDS IS THE SIMULARITYS IN QUALITY OF WORKMANSHIP AND APPERANT AGE OF THESE EXAMPLES. I HAVE NOT SEEN SIMULAR WORKMANSHIP OF THAT AGE OR QUALITY OR THE STRANGE FORMS OF MORO SWORDS FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE SO CAN ONLY BASE MY CONCLUSIONS ON WHAT I KNOW AND SUSPECT. SO UNTIL WE CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER EXACT EXAMPLE WITH FULL PROVENANCE THATS THE BEST WE CAN DO.

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25th January 2009, 06:13 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Robert, please see my revised post. Vandoo, while it is logical to draw comparisons of this one to a pira, I do not believe it actually is a pira. The hilt looks like a rather typical barong simple jungayyan style to me.

25th January 2009, 07:38 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	A very nice and unusual blade. A departure from the norm. Never seen one like it. Could it be a customer specefied blade shape. A European could have oredered it...???? Congrats on a great find.

25th January 2009, 07:39 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TRUE IT IS NOT A PIRA OR A BANGKUNG BUT IT SHOWS INFLUENCE FROM BOTH AND HAS FEATURES SIMULAR TO BOTH. IT MAY HAVE BEEN FASHIONED AFTER SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY OR PATTERENED AFTER SOMETHING ON ONE OF THE MORO WEAPONS PLACKS. THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE WOULD BE TO ASK THE PERSON WHO MADE IT WHAT HE CALLED IT. THAT NOT BEING POSSIBLE ALL WE CAN DO IS RELY ON SURMIZE, GUESS AND LOGICAL COMPARISONS WHICH MAY BE ACCURATE OR NOT. AT ANY RATE THE PERSON WHO MADE IT KNEW HIS BUSINESS AND DID A VERY GOOD JOB. THE REASON I GAVE THE INFORMATION AND ORIGIN ON MY GROUP OF SWORDS IS THE SIMULARITYS IN QUALITY OF WORKMANSHIP AND APPERANT AGE OF THESE EXAMPLES. I HAVE NOT SEEN SIMULAR WORKMANSHIP OF THAT AGE OR QUALITY OR THE STRANGE FORMS OF MORO SWORDS FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE SO CAN ONLY BASE MY CONCLUSIONS ON WHAT I KNOW AND SUSPECT. SO UNTIL WE CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER EXACT EXAMPLE WITH FULL PROVENANCE THATS THE BEST WE CAN DO.