A cup hilted sword rapier for coments

fernando · 17th December 2008, 08:09 PM

My Christmas self gift has arrived,
I will attach here some more pictures of it, as well as some specifications, as advised by Chris, to help figure out the original purpose of this sword.

Total weight:1130 grs.
Length of blade as from the cross: 104 cms.
Overall length: 114 cms.
Point of balance as from the cross: 14 cms.
Length of quillons: 32 cms.
Cup bowl width:16 cms.
Blade width at forte: 20 mm.
Blade thickness at forte: 8,13 mm.
No aparent evidence of blade dents, repairs or sharpening.
Blade cross section of six tables, the last third practicaly lenticular.
Sharp (not acute) in both sides through all length.

I hope i've done it right ... Chris ?

I seem to notice that the grip copper wire wraping is quite old, probably from the period, which is a pleasant and major detail.
The pommel fixation looks fine too.
But you guys know a lot more than me about these things; tell me what you think ... please

Also i would like to know if anyone here recognizes those marks on the recazo, which certainly belong to the sword (blade) smith.

Fernando

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Chris Evans · 17th December 2008, 11:27 PM

Hi Fernando,

Many thanks for having taken and posted the critical dimensions of your rapier - They are typical of fully evolved exemplars of the genre. That long blade must have a very good sectional density to obtain that balance with such a modest sized pommel.

It is a very nice weapon and look upon it with no little envy.

Cheers
Chris
Season's Greetings and a happy New Year to all

Gonzalo G · 18th December 2008, 05:44 AM

Fer, thank you very much for this numerical data. I think it is indispensable for the understanding of the edged weapons, as it gives much basic information about the making and use of them. It´s a pity many people only gives relevance to their visual appearance in photographs, because photographs have several limitations. A professional aproach to this subject always should be based in this data.
Un saludo

Gonzalo

17th December 2008, 08:09 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	My Christmas self gift has arrived, I will attach here some more pictures of it, as well as some specifications, as advised by Chris, to help figure out the original purpose of this sword. Total weight:1130 grs. Length of blade as from the cross: 104 cms. Overall length: 114 cms. Point of balance as from the cross: 14 cms. Length of quillons: 32 cms. Cup bowl width:16 cms. Blade width at forte: 20 mm. Blade thickness at forte: 8,13 mm. No aparent evidence of blade dents, repairs or sharpening. Blade cross section of six tables, the last third practicaly lenticular. Sharp (not acute) in both sides through all length. I hope i've done it right ... Chris ? I seem to notice that the grip copper wire wraping is quite old, probably from the period, which is a pleasant and major detail. The pommel fixation looks fine too. But you guys know a lot more than me about these things; tell me what you think ... please Also i would like to know if anyone here recognizes those marks on the recazo, which certainly belong to the sword (blade) smith. Fernando . Attached Images

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17th December 2008, 11:27 PM	#2
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 685	Hi Fernando, Many thanks for having taken and posted the critical dimensions of your rapier - They are typical of fully evolved exemplars of the genre. That long blade must have a very good sectional density to obtain that balance with such a modest sized pommel. It is a very nice weapon and look upon it with no little envy. Cheers Chris Season's Greetings and a happy New Year to all

18th December 2008, 05:44 AM	#3
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	Fer, thank you very much for this numerical data. I think it is indispensable for the understanding of the edged weapons, as it gives much basic information about the making and use of them. It´s a pity many people only gives relevance to their visual appearance in photographs, because photographs have several limitations. A professional aproach to this subject always should be based in this data. Un saludo Gonzalo