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			Had a wonderful visit from a Forumite this weekend and we spent a LOT of time talking kris. One of my favorite subjects. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Here we are discussing a SE Indian blade. Now I am 6'1" tall, so you can only guess how tall Kai must be! It was very exciting to finally meet a man who opinions I so much enjoy on this forum. His first trip to the USA! ![]() Here we are studying another blade and about to be surprised by my pet (stuffed) Tsavo Lion! ![]() Having escaped, we are looking through one of my storage places, old map/blueprint cabinets. I really like these cabinets. Very solid steel, and huge flat drawers for holding lots of sharp pointy objects! ![]() Anne and Kai studying another blade. While really enjoying Kai's visit, I was continually impressed with his knowledge and so was my wife, Anne, who also has a deep interest in blades and the cultural aspects of these societies. I am truly a lucky man to have such a wife! And good friends such as Kai Witte. ![]() Kai has convinced me to begin staining my Moro collection. I have decided to seriously begin getting involved in staining, beginning with some of my lower end pieces, reserving the better quality pieces for "advanced work!" I have chosen a few examples and am beginning the Clean, polish, degrease and stain process. Going to begin with vinegar to clean and stain. Kai suggested I get vinegar from a drugstore that may have the least impurities and therefore the most repeatable results.  | 
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			Hey Bill, nice to see that you let others into the "museum".   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  I do notice that Kimba, the white lion is poised to pounce though.     
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			David, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Kai is actually the second international Forum member to come by. You are certainly welcome anytime. Just give me some advance notice and I will be sure that "Kimba" is contained. He shouldn't be hungry after eating 70 railroad workers! But, seriously, I enjoy meeting Forum members. Just send me an email and come on down!  | 
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			[QUOTE=. Kai suggested I get vinegar from a drugstore that may have the least impurities and therefore the most repeatable results.[/QUOTE] 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Glacial Acetic Acid?? Be very careful with this stuff, it will burn your skin bad. I acquired a partial vial of it thru my work. Never got around to using it, l left it outside during winter time and it crystalized. Keep it outside, it's odor is strong. Nice use of flat file cabinets for storage. I have a couple of them that I use as well. Got them after Ibeam told me that that what he was using.  | 
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			 Quote: 
	
 Right about the glacial acetic acid. Household vinegar is about 4%. GAA is 100%. Kai said to dilute either to about 1% for soaking a blade.  | 
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			Bill, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Nice home. Really like the arboretum, adds a nice touch, classy all around.  | 
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			Bill, I'm only 5'7" ...   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  Do you accept visiting Midgets ?     
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			Nice to have a face with my friends collectors. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Maurice  | 
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 for real.. glacial acetic acid is some strong stuff! the first time i worked with this, i decided not to put a mask on. needless to say i had a wasabi exploding in my brain effect after taking a whiff of this baby, lol...  | 
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			 Quote: 
	
 AFAIK, you usually can buy 10% acetic acid at drugstores which is a much more convenient concentration to use as a stock. As Bill already mentioned, do dilute it further for actual use. I find about 1% pretty good for cleaning purposes (kitchen vinegar has about 4% - so 1% is very safe). Regards, Kai  | 
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			Hello Bill, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thanks for the nice pics and comments! Quote: 
	
 It really was an exiting weekend and again a huge thank you to Anne and Bill for their hospitality! From the pics you can estimate what an amazing collection this is... I especially appreciate their sharing nature - for example, Bill freely posting pics of pieces from the "Marsh Museum" here on the forum! Regards, Kai  | 
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			Hi Guys, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Please pardon the question. Why not simply use kitchen vinegar full strength? I have used ketchup placed for three to four hours to clean some stained blades. No great results. Has anyone used kitchen vinegar, and how? Best Manuel Luis Quote: 
	
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			Hello Manuel, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 - More expensive than technical grade. - The organic residues in edible vinegar (made from wine, fruit juice, added herbs) may give yellowish/brownish hues when using vinegar as an etchant. BTW, I bet that the main active ingredient when utilizing ketchup is vinegar. With some starch, you could easily cook a cheap acetic acid "pudding" for a less messy application on blades... Regards, Kai  | 
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