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Old 30th July 2008, 11:58 PM   #1
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IMHO this kris is a genuine piece crafted the traditonal Moro way (separate gangya, regular blade thickness, original hilt & pommel with silver bands, solid asang-asang (clamps), original anting-anting cloth); I'd guess that the blade is laminated.

I think it dates around the turn of the 19th/20th century: Without collecting date I'd had estimated 1895-1930 and with the collecting date 1895-1905 seems reasonable. Such a complete piece with sound provenance is rare regardless of age.

I agree that the workmanship (e. g. scroll work on both sides of the gangya, scabbard, etc) is not top-notch, especially not datu quality. However, I'd suggest that comparing kris crafted during the US occupation (BTW, I love how everone contesting US troops becomes a bandit or outlaw ) with mid-19th century (or older) kris is like comparing apples with oranges.

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I do not believe that the blade is a laminated/Damascus style. I see no indications of any type of lamination.
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Old 31st July 2008, 01:23 AM   #2
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I do not believe that the blade is a laminated/Damascus style. I see no indications of any type of lamination.
I'd agree with Bill, Kai and the others in that this is a good older -- 1890's blade and though you may not be able to see laminations in it's present state of "polish" I would be very surprised if it was NOT laminated. You could etch it using methods described in several posts on this forum and see.

I have several similar kris and they have laminated blades.
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Old 31st July 2008, 01:39 AM   #3
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I do not believe that the blade is a laminated/Damascus style. I see no indications of any type of lamination.

safest way to find out is by placing the blade under hot running water... look for lamination patterns...
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Old 31st July 2008, 02:43 PM   #4
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safest way to find out is by placing the blade under hot running water... look for lamination patterns...

Well that's cool! Great tip.
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