Albanian Jambiya/Khanjar Wootz?

ward · 26th July 2008, 07:12 PM

You always better off starting with a lower concentrate and just repeating coats over and over again

Lew · 26th July 2008, 08:27 PM

Here is a better pic you can see the pattern but it's not high contrast.

Atlantia · 26th July 2008, 09:03 PM

Another nice find Lew,
How are you etching it, dipping or painting on?
Would switching to citric acid now make any difference?

Lew · 26th July 2008, 09:24 PM

Atlantia

I'm painting it on and I don't know if citric acid will do a good job on it?

Lew

ward · 26th July 2008, 09:47 PM

if I may suggest more sanding got down to 2500 also still half your conentrate will take longer but will come out. you need to get rid of some pitting slow and sure. I think you should be able to get a decent pattern out of it. slow and sure. citric is not going to cut it on this tyoe of damascus. light etches neutralizing in between. you can use warm vinigar as last step

Atlantia · 26th July 2008, 10:48 PM

I'm intrigued, I've never used ferric chloride.
I've always bathed as well, does it need to be mixed with a carrier to keep it on the blade? If not how do you stop it being patchy?
I like citric, mostly because its good and slow and idiot proof (an important factor for me! lol)
Which reminds me, Albanian? Wootz?
Have you guys mapped the geographical use of wootz? I wouldn't have even thought to check this dagger even though its a jambiya.

Cant wait to see the results on it!!

gene

P.S. I realise the blade must be a trade item.

ward · 27th July 2008, 12:43 AM

ferric chloride,ferric sulphate,sulpuratic acid,muratic acid, photographic fixer,whosteerchester sauce,pinnaple,lime,lemon and various vinegars are common to use.Some are salts some are acids I would strongly suggest you learn something about chemistry before using these. Some of these are extremly toxic and need to be greatly diluted to work properly. You can also trash the piece very quickly

26th July 2008, 08:27 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a better pic you can see the pattern but it's not high contrast. Attached Images

26th July 2008, 10:48 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I'm intrigued, I've never used ferric chloride. I've always bathed as well, does it need to be mixed with a carrier to keep it on the blade? If not how do you stop it being patchy? I like citric, mostly because its good and slow and idiot proof (an important factor for me! lol) Which reminds me, Albanian? Wootz? Have you guys mapped the geographical use of wootz? I wouldn't have even thought to check this dagger even though its a jambiya. Cant wait to see the results on it!! gene P.S. I realise the blade must be a trade item. Last edited by Atlantia; 27th July 2008 at 04:02 PM.

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26th July 2008, 07:12 PM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	You always better off starting with a lower concentrate and just repeating coats over and over again

26th July 2008, 09:03 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Another nice find Lew, How are you etching it, dipping or painting on? Would switching to citric acid now make any difference?

26th July 2008, 09:24 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Atlantia I'm painting it on and I don't know if citric acid will do a good job on it? Lew

26th July 2008, 09:47 PM	#5
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	if I may suggest more sanding got down to 2500 also still half your conentrate will take longer but will come out. you need to get rid of some pitting slow and sure. I think you should be able to get a decent pattern out of it. slow and sure. citric is not going to cut it on this tyoe of damascus. light etches neutralizing in between. you can use warm vinigar as last step

27th July 2008, 12:43 AM	#7
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	ferric chloride,ferric sulphate,sulpuratic acid,muratic acid, photographic fixer,whosteerchester sauce,pinnaple,lime,lemon and various vinegars are common to use.Some are salts some are acids I would strongly suggest you learn something about chemistry before using these. Some of these are extremly toxic and need to be greatly diluted to work properly. You can also trash the piece very quickly