ivory balinees

Lew · 19th July 2008, 10:50 PM

Ok It's Balinese! I am more familar with different styles probably from Lombak

That is why I stopped collecting keris too many styles and regions to remember and not enough brains cells left in my head to store all this information

Regards

Lew

David · 19th July 2008, 11:02 PM

Don't worry Lew, i don't think any of us really have enough brain cells to store all the information on the incredible variance of keris styles of both blade and dress.

Oh, and if you are really finished collecting keris i think i recall that you have at least a couple of nice ones that you should send over my way. You know the address...

Rick · 20th July 2008, 04:34 AM

I don't think I've ever seen that type of gandar on Bali dress .

BluErf · 20th July 2008, 05:43 AM

Hmmm... what accounts for the interesting caramel-brown colouration on parts of the hilt, I wonder?

brekele · 20th July 2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Hmmm... what accounts for the interesting caramel-brown colouration on parts of the hilt, I wonder?

Smoky (fumigation) way is normally way that people in Bali/Lombok coloring their bone or ivory hilt to get caramel-brown or even antik dark-brown look.

David · 20th July 2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brekele

Smoky (fumigation) way is normally way that people in Bali/Lombok coloring their bone or ivory hilt to get caramel-brown or even antik dark-brown look.

Beside the unusual gandar i have never seen a selut (what's the Balinese term?) quite like that on a Bali hilt. I am guessing that this dress is a bit newer than the blade and probably aged a bit with smoke and other methods. And i am not really sure, based on the photos alone, that this material isn't bone instead of ivory.
But new or old, bone or ivory, it is attractive and well executed.

brekele · 20th July 2008, 09:43 PM

From experience, some guys out there in lombok specially, turn the gandar from bugis-sumbawa keris (with javanese keris blade) into balinese keris look only in one day because there are some a month tourist came and interest with balinese keris complete with all those bling bling (ivory,silver,gold etc ).
I interest too sometime so far the keris look nice :-)
So..base on that experience, the gandar on this keris is actually belong keris bugis or keris bugis-sumbawa. I never see OLD balinenese keris sheath (gandar) with three small silver stripe line decoration. That is my opinion about this keris.

Hey, the keris perabot look nice well made.

Lew · 20th July 2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Oh, and if you are really finished collecting keris i think i recall that you have at least a couple of nice ones that you should send over my way. You know the address...

David

I might be done with collecting keris for now but as they say "I ain't dead yet"

Lew

20th July 2008, 04:34 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Unusual .. To Me I don't think I've ever seen that type of gandar on Bali dress .

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19th July 2008, 10:50 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Ok It's Balinese! I am more familar with different styles probably from Lombak That is why I stopped collecting keris too many styles and regions to remember and not enough brains cells left in my head to store all this information Regards Lew

19th July 2008, 11:02 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Don't worry Lew, i don't think any of us really have enough brain cells to store all the information on the incredible variance of keris styles of both blade and dress. Oh, and if you are really finished collecting keris i think i recall that you have at least a couple of nice ones that you should send over my way. You know the address...

20th July 2008, 05:43 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmmm... what accounts for the interesting caramel-brown colouration on parts of the hilt, I wonder?

20th July 2008, 09:43 PM	#7
brekele Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 208	From experience, some guys out there in lombok specially, turn the gandar from bugis-sumbawa keris (with javanese keris blade) into balinese keris look only in one day because there are some a month tourist came and interest with balinese keris complete with all those bling bling (ivory,silver,gold etc ). I interest too sometime so far the keris look nice :-) So..base on that experience, the gandar on this keris is actually belong keris bugis or keris bugis-sumbawa. I never see OLD balinenese keris sheath (gandar) with three small silver stripe line decoration. That is my opinion about this keris. Hey, the keris perabot look nice well made.