Kalis: Origin of Minadanaon Kris

David · 27th June 2008, 06:45 PM

Hey Spunjer, nice to see you back from vaca.

That kris looks familiar. Is it the one you got for Harold with the pommel repaired. If so it's nice to see it restored.

I think a lot of us would like to see a Moro weapon from the 14th century or be able to say with any amount of certainty just when the kris first appeared there. The earliest kris that Cato shows he dates to 18th century. It is, of course, possible that these "archaic" kris are a bit older. Maybe 16th century...a real stretch, i'd say, to place them any older.
I don't know how long the word "turko" has been in usage, but i think that your idea that it was introduced by the Spanish is a strong one.

Nice to have you back.

Spunjer · 27th June 2008, 08:17 PM

wassup david
yup. that's the same one from harold. matter of fact, i just saw him last month at the OGCA. still going strong, that guy
we've seen a few archaic examples, but yes, proving it was earlier would be hard, if not impossible, save for a sunken ship like the one they found in indonesia..

27th June 2008, 06:45 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Hey Spunjer, nice to see you back from vaca. That kris looks familiar. Is it the one you got for Harold with the pommel repaired. If so it's nice to see it restored. I think a lot of us would like to see a Moro weapon from the 14th century or be able to say with any amount of certainty just when the kris first appeared there. The earliest kris that Cato shows he dates to 18th century. It is, of course, possible that these "archaic" kris are a bit older. Maybe 16th century...a real stretch, i'd say, to place them any older. I don't know how long the word "turko" has been in usage, but i think that your idea that it was introduced by the Spanish is a strong one. Nice to have you back. Last edited by David; 27th June 2008 at 08:22 PM. Reason: spelling

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27th June 2008, 08:17 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	wassup david yup. that's the same one from harold. matter of fact, i just saw him last month at the OGCA. still going strong, that guy we've seen a few archaic examples, but yes, proving it was earlier would be hard, if not impossible, save for a sunken ship like the one they found in indonesia..