Assad Allah

ward · 14th February 2008, 01:11 AM

Damian that is a nice piece if you had been out of town that day it would have been mine. oh well

Jim McDougall · 14th February 2008, 04:45 AM

This is a good example of the pictograph discussed Husar! What type of sword is the blade from?

HUSAR · 14th February 2008, 07:08 AM

Hello Jim
The sword is very similar to one i already have (pictures). However blade is lighter and longer (almost 87cm) The difference in 3 chiseled inscription instead of 2 and some gold work along the blade and also gold inscription which I posted yesterday on forum. I will try to take some pictures of this particular sword during weekend and post on forum.

Jim McDougall · 14th February 2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HUSAR

Hello Jim
The sword is very similar to one i already have (pictures). However blade is lighter and longer (almost 87cm) The difference in 3 chiseled inscription instead of 2 and some gold work along the blade and also gold inscription which I posted yesterday on forum. I will try to take some pictures of this particular sword during weekend and post on forum.

Thank you posting this one Husar! I look forward to seeing it.
This sabre you have posted is very nearly a textbook example of the Persian trade blades discussed in Oliver Pinchot's excellent article. The hilt is clearly Syrian and I have seen nearly the same channeled blades with the pictograph on Arabian sabres of probably the same 19th century period. The blade on this one you have posted is by far one of the nicest I have seen!
Is there a panel of chiseled calligraphy on the reverse side of the blade?

There was an article some time ago in "Arts of Asia" (I believe by Welch) that has an illustration of a blade of this form that is I believe mounted in a tulwar, and the form also is seen in Robert Elgood's "Arms and Armour of Arabia". I'll see if I can find the references.

All best regards,
Jim

Jens Nordlunde · 14th February 2008, 01:05 PM

Here is another of these type of blade, also Syrian.

Jim McDougall · 15th February 2008, 02:03 AM

Very nice Jens! That is the type of calligraphy panel I was looking for. These blades really got around!
All the best,
Jim

ALEX · 17th February 2008, 01:06 PM

Husar,
In your earlier post you asked for translation. On the side with 3 cartouches: top one reads "O,Fulfiller of Needs", the bottom under lion reads "work of AssadAllah". The cartouche on another side reads "Reign of Shah Abbas".
Without doubt it is very nice sword, and I agree with you - having 3 cartouches is rare and makes it even more interesting:-)
How's condition of the sword and what "relic" description means, i.e. are there any deep pittings or deep/through rust on the blade?

Ward, this is interesting analogy. I atach pictures of 19th Cent brass charger made in Syria, propably for the Persian market, with unusual motif with chiselled cartouches and small lion? or dog? This is a good quality work, but still hard to tell. Any comments?

HUSAR · 14th February 2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ward

Damian that is a nice piece if you had been out of town that day it would have been mine. oh well

Thats true ! This time I was just more lucky

14th February 2008, 07:08 AM	#3
HUSAR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 80	sword Hello Jim The sword is very similar to one i already have (pictures). However blade is lighter and longer (almost 87cm) The difference in 3 chiseled inscription instead of 2 and some gold work along the blade and also gold inscription which I posted yesterday on forum. I will try to take some pictures of this particular sword during weekend and post on forum. Attached Images

14th February 2008, 01:05 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Here is another of these type of blade, also Syrian. Attached Images

17th February 2008, 01:06 PM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Husar, In your earlier post you asked for translation. On the side with 3 cartouches: top one reads "O,Fulfiller of Needs", the bottom under lion reads "work of AssadAllah". The cartouche on another side reads "Reign of Shah Abbas". Without doubt it is very nice sword, and I agree with you - having 3 cartouches is rare and makes it even more interesting:-) How's condition of the sword and what "relic" description means, i.e. are there any deep pittings or deep/through rust on the blade? Ward, this is interesting analogy. I atach pictures of 19th Cent brass charger made in Syria, propably for the Persian market, with unusual motif with chiselled cartouches and small lion? or dog? This is a good quality work, but still hard to tell. Any comments? Attached Images

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14th February 2008, 01:11 AM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Damian that is a nice piece if you had been out of town that day it would have been mine. oh well

14th February 2008, 04:45 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,297	This is a good example of the pictograph discussed Husar! What type of sword is the blade from?

15th February 2008, 02:03 AM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,297	Very nice Jens! That is the type of calligraphy panel I was looking for. These blades really got around! All the best, Jim