Balinese Keris Help

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Mans

The nice hilt looks like a Tapukan style. Original by Balinese carving. Combinated with brass. It completely hilt.
I was bidding too for this keris at eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESO:IT

.... but I lost it and have no lucky
Beautiful Balinese keris. Congratulations, Jacob.

Regards,
Mans.

You know I looked at this piece and it appeared to me to be new work .

[Mans]

Originally Posted by Rick

You know I looked at this piece and it appeared to me to be new work .

Would you please give me some reason about new work, Rick ?
In my eyes, it is beautiful balinese keris with nice pamor. Not to old, I think made about CA19th and it has good take care by the owner before. Looks so different between new iron with old piece.

Regards,
Mans.

[Rick]

Sometimes you just get a feeling .

I'm not saying that it isn't exquisite work or not worth the money paid .

It just looks new , the blade appears perfectly smooth yet it isn't polished .

The wood work on the ukiran looks softly carved rather than sharp carving that is worn with age and it seems ill fitted to the metal cap .

The pendokok may be older as it seems to show some staining .

The metalwork on the ukiran seems just not quite as good as it should be considering the overall impression this piece should make .

There seems to be no patina present on most of the piece .

These are just the observations of a Westerner and should be taken as such , an opinion .

[Mans]

Originally Posted by Rick

Sometimes you just get a feeling .

I'm not saying that it isn't exquisite work or not worth the money paid .

It just looks new , the blade appears perfectly smooth yet it isn't polished .


The metalwork on the ukiran seems just not quite as good as it should be considering the overall impression this piece should make .

These are just the observations of a Westerner and should be taken as such , an opinion .

Hi, Rick,
Sometimes we just got the feeling, but actually we should know about the blade, ironwork and pamor.
Often we interested about the keris because we look that a keris used an nice old scabbard and accesories like pendok and hilt. But actually we bought a new keris or common keris which have no special characteristic.
Or, often we try to justifying that the keris is new just because it have a completly or intact ricikan like greneng, ron dha or kembang kacang, but actually this keris is old and has good take care before.

This keris which last posted look so nice for me. The blade look made by good ironwork. I think it made about middle to end of CA19th, not older, but it is not a new made. The scabbard look handsome and used an old pendok from silver. About the hilt and silver fitting, I don't have any idea how old it is But I think it is an original Balinese hilt.

Westerner or easterner whose interest about keris look the same for me.
They have many reason and knowledge how to give opinion about it. And I try to learn more from all of them

Best Regards,
Mans.

[Sang Keris]

Up to you !

[Sang Keris]

mans ,.. don't argue..
...thts useless....

let people say whatever they wanna say,,,..


im out....

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Sang Keris

mans ,.. don't argue..
...thts useless....

let people say whatever they wanna say,,,..


im out....

Sang, I don't think Rick and Mans were arguing. It seemed like a respectful disagreement and discussion. Personally, I was hoping you'd come along and talk about your keris too.

It was quite a beautiful piece.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Mans

Westerner or easterner whose interest about keris look the same for me.
They have many reason and knowledge how to give opinion about it. And I try to learn more from all of them

Best Regards,
Mans.

I agree Mans. I'm so uninformed when it comes to keris, that I eagerly read everyone's opinions.