Ivory hilt dagger with "Tears" and a "Smiley?"

Mare Rosu · 1st August 2007, 12:49 AM

Yes Jens there is a bird on each side of the dagger.
I know your are a "Flower" person

but can you, or anyone else tell me the identity/type of bird it is? Looks like a long bill Raven to me

Thanks for the kind words on my pictures.
Gene

rand · 1st August 2007, 07:02 AM

Gene,

The picture showing the magnetic fields relating to the blade is fascinating.

Regarding the bird, I believe the peacock was the pet of the God of War, so that may be a good choice...... Makes a good story anyway.

rand

kronckew · 1st August 2007, 10:58 AM

my initial impression is also a peacock

Jens Nordlunde · 1st August 2007, 05:00 PM

I would have said a raven, but after having read Rand's and Kronckew's posts, and having had another look at the bird, I think it may be a peacock after all, due to the way the tail feathers are made. Besides from being a royal bird, and a pet of the God of war, the peacock is a very good watch bird and will make a lot of noice if intruders try to get in where they have nothing to do.

rand · 1st August 2007, 10:15 PM

Its also interesting that the bird is chiseled into the bolsa and the work on it matches the cut out for the tears of the wounded. Looks like the same tools marks to me.

rand

Jens Nordlunde · 1st August 2007, 10:29 PM

Yes Rand, in this case it is, most likely, that the same man made the whole knife - interesting.

rand · 2nd August 2007, 06:58 AM

Found and article about the magnetic field in wootz... based on a 16th Persian dagger purchased from Leo Figiel...

http://home.clara.net/andywrobertson...02_dagger.html

rand

1st August 2007, 12:49 AM	#1
Mare Rosu Deceased Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA, DEEP SOUTH, GEORGIA, Y'all hear? Posts: 121	BIRD, What type? Yes Jens there is a bird on each side of the dagger. I know your are a "Flower" person but can you, or anyone else tell me the identity/type of bird it is? Looks like a long bill Raven to me Thanks for the kind words on my pictures. Gene Attached Images

1st August 2007, 07:02 AM	#2
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Iron filings and bird Gene, The picture showing the magnetic fields relating to the blade is fascinating. Regarding the bird, I believe the peacock was the pet of the God of War, so that may be a good choice...... Makes a good story anyway. rand

1st August 2007, 10:15 PM	#5
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Metalwork on Bolsa & Tang Its also interesting that the bird is chiseled into the bolsa and the work on it matches the cut out for the tears of the wounded. Looks like the same tools marks to me. rand

2nd August 2007, 06:58 AM	#7
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	The Far Field- Magnetic field in wootz Found and article about the magnetic field in wootz... based on a 16th Persian dagger purchased from Leo Figiel... http://home.clara.net/andywrobertson...02_dagger.html rand

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1st August 2007, 10:58 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	my initial impression is also a peacock

1st August 2007, 05:00 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I would have said a raven, but after having read Rand's and Kronckew's posts, and having had another look at the bird, I think it may be a peacock after all, due to the way the tail feathers are made. Besides from being a royal bird, and a pet of the God of war, the peacock is a very good watch bird and will make a lot of noice if intruders try to get in where they have nothing to do.

1st August 2007, 10:29 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes Rand, in this case it is, most likely, that the same man made the whole knife - interesting.