Help with the stamps please

dralin23 · 29th June 2007, 11:12 PM

hi all
so what think you is it an khanda ore more an patissa sword? the blade is verry havy single edged with no ricasso. my opinion is that these sword is very unpracticable for fight in an battle. an khanda is light an quickly in an battle but thes sword is so havy an the people from these time wasn´t so big an strong like today. maybe it is an execution sword???
please tell me your opinion!!
stefan

Jens Nordlunde · 20th December 2015, 03:33 PM

Alex,
Did you see this thread? Showing the same stamps as on your blade.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Patissa

ALEX · 21st December 2015, 05:52 PM

Jens,
I missed it indeed. Thank you for reminding. The stamps are the same, including their positions on the blade. Good to see the same combination likely from the same armoury/maker.

Jens Nordlunde · 16th August 2018, 01:09 PM

Alex,
Opening an old/very old thread once more:-).
Hindu Arms and Ritual by Robert Elgood, page 107 the column to the right.
"The Marathas marked the trident on their swords and canon in honour of Durga...."
I cant say it is a Maratha blade, but in these parts some blades were marked with a katar, as far as I know.

Ian · 16th August 2018, 11:37 PM

Jens,

Thank you for reopening this vintage thread from the Archives. Jim's comment about a particular group in Gujarat that swore oaths on the katar has prompted me to write to my princely contact in Gujarat to see if we can better define which of the various Rajput clans may have used that practice. This is the same gentleman about whom I wrote to you previously. He's a busy man so it may take a little while to retrieve his answer.

All the best,

Ian.

Jens Nordlunde · 18th August 2018, 10:38 AM

Ian,
Very long time ago I read about a habit they had - in Gujarat I think. When someone had made a promise, and did not keep it, he should do something dramatical to his arm with his katar - I am sorry but I have forgotten what it was. In stead of doing this they made a cut on the arm, and the text said,that some had quite a lot of cuts on the arm.

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29th June 2007, 11:12 PM	#1
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	hi all so what think you is it an khanda ore more an patissa sword? the blade is verry havy single edged with no ricasso. my opinion is that these sword is very unpracticable for fight in an battle. an khanda is light an quickly in an battle but thes sword is so havy an the people from these time wasn´t so big an strong like today. maybe it is an execution sword??? please tell me your opinion!! stefan

20th December 2015, 03:33 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Alex, Did you see this thread? Showing the same stamps as on your blade. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Patissa

21st December 2015, 05:52 PM	#3
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Jens, I missed it indeed. Thank you for reminding. The stamps are the same, including their positions on the blade. Good to see the same combination likely from the same armoury/maker.

16th August 2018, 01:09 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Alex, Opening an old/very old thread once more:-). Hindu Arms and Ritual by Robert Elgood, page 107 the column to the right. "The Marathas marked the trident on their swords and canon in honour of Durga...." I cant say it is a Maratha blade, but in these parts some blades were marked with a katar, as far as I know.

16th August 2018, 11:37 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Jens, Thank you for reopening this vintage thread from the Archives. Jim's comment about a particular group in Gujarat that swore oaths on the katar has prompted me to write to my princely contact in Gujarat to see if we can better define which of the various Rajput clans may have used that practice. This is the same gentleman about whom I wrote to you previously. He's a busy man so it may take a little while to retrieve his answer. All the best, Ian.

18th August 2018, 10:38 AM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Ian, Very long time ago I read about a habit they had - in Gujarat I think. When someone had made a promise, and did not keep it, he should do something dramatical to his arm with his katar - I am sorry but I have forgotten what it was. In stead of doing this they made a cut on the arm, and the text said,that some had quite a lot of cuts on the arm.