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18th May 2007, 09:47 AM
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Michael,
When would you say a mandau is from koetei ? The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ? I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now. |
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18th May 2007, 10:10 AM
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Willem opschepper LOL
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18th May 2007, 01:20 PM
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Hi Ben !
English please ?!  Some more pictures of my very special, very rare, perfect condition, guaranteed pre 1900's, koetei mandau  Ps. Ben, how is the spear collection ? Best regards, Willem |
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19th May 2007, 08:05 AM
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Hi Willem congratulations with your birthday
The spear collection is nice I have an rare murut spear and a few nice philipinne spears addit to my collection you have an nice collection off koetei mandau s That last one is one off the best Ben |
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20th May 2007, 05:39 PM
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On your question the hilt is of course a good tell. The rattan stick along the scabbard is according to my experience more of an age indicator. Michael |
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11th March 2015, 03:09 AM
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The Rattan stick is used as protection for the sharp blade and not only from the koetei area.
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11th March 2015, 05:54 AM
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Hello Ben,
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Any other examples of such scabbards from other regions/tribes? Regards, Kai |
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11th March 2015, 10:36 AM
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The old style scabbards from Negara often had a carved "look-a-like" stick like the ones from Kutai, not a real one.
Best, Maurice |
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11th March 2015, 08:06 PM
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So the rattan stick is designed to keep the blade from cutting through the woven rattan bands???...if so it was a good idea that should not have been given up considering how many swords we have seen cut through their rattan bound scabbards at the edges.
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12th March 2015, 09:27 PM
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It is more work to make it like this, and as we know the fine art work also disappear by time.....
I have an mandau late 1700 that do have the rattan strip and an handle that has 2 different sides.... And is not from koetei. Ben |
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