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			Gene, I still don't know, but I am looking into it, and when I know I will let you know. Remember that flowers cut in the steel, are less likely to have many details, whereas hilts cast in cire perdy or enamelled hilts have far more details. 
		
		
		
			To study Indian textiles with flowers can be a big help, as the mane of the flowers are often given. Notice that Crysanthemum Indicum is not the same Chrysanthemum as the one you see in Japanese and Chinese decorations. The decoration shown is, to the best of my knowledge Roses and made in cire perdy.  | 
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