Papal death squad knife.

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 08:07 PM

This knife is a Papal assassins knife. The Papal death priests carry them to protect themselves from the Devil and other heretics. They are derived from the Spanish inquisition.

Andrew · 16th January 2007, 08:13 PM

Is this a serious thread?

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 08:16 PM

It could have been

.

David · 16th January 2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

It could have been

.

LOL!!!

Emanuel · 16th January 2007, 08:21 PM

That blade looks plenty serious...the handle is a bit toy-like though.

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 08:32 PM

The blade is very serious. The chap selling it said it was taken from an Italian officer in ww2

He was one of the death priests I imagine, that became an officer in the army?

Rick · 16th January 2007, 08:40 PM

Looks like some kind of antique souvenir of Venice.

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 08:42 PM

Why do you say that Rick?

Rick · 16th January 2007, 08:53 PM

Isn't the handle the winged lion of St. Mark a Venice landmark ?

Why yes it is !

http://simplethinking.com/home/italy...j-P6228624.jpg

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 09:01 PM

Yes it is Rick, but it is well known the the papal death priests were established in Venice as there was a special hard line order. The order of st Mark. Look very closely at the cross it is not an ordinary cross. The cross piece is in the middle making it quite different.

Rick · 16th January 2007, 09:12 PM

Pardon my ignorance Tim; never heard of 'em.

Got any sources ?

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 09:22 PM

Rick the people who collect these things know that these people have always been a death squad since the late crusades. In my opinion you have shown no evidence to counter my original claim.
http://www.medals.org.uk/egypt/egypt...kingdom008.htm

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 09:28 PM

Anyway Bernard Manning said so. No its all make believe. bernard Manning is real. I wonder if he is on the internet.

Rick · 16th January 2007, 09:30 PM

Out of my realm of knowledge Tim; not countering your claim; just giving an opinion from observation of the object .

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 09:33 PM

This guy is one of them and I am his head boy.
http://www.bernardmanning.com/

spiral · 16th January 2007, 09:34 PM

Does it look like rhino horn to you Tim? I reckon it could be.

Spiral

Daniel · 16th January 2007, 09:37 PM

You mean there are no experts on early brass handled Papal-assassin figural daggers in this forum with other examples of winged lions to support your identification? How disappointing.
DD

Jeff D · 16th January 2007, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

This knife is a Papal assassins knife.

Crap Tim you scared the living... out of me. I thought you put
Paypal assassins knife. I did settle my tab there though.

Jeff

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 09:40 PM

No its not brown

katana · 16th January 2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff D

Crap Tim you scared the living... out of me. I thought you put
Paypal assassins knife. I did settle my tab there though.

Jeff

excellent thread Tim ....

:

spiral · 16th January 2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

No its not brown

O it cant be that then.

Tiger tooth perhaps?

Spiral

Tim Simmons · 16th January 2007, 10:04 PM

That is probably the one.

katana · 16th January 2007, 10:10 PM

Isn't the 'bow' on the hilt......an 'eternal bow'.......good grief...my Aunt and Uncle have a dinner service with this motif......supporters of the Papal assassins ???

spiral · 16th January 2007, 11:21 PM

No it cant be a papal assasins knife they use Moro kris.

Heres some evidence for you.....

http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-papal-assassins.html

Looks like 9mms are popular as well.

Spiral

Jim McDougall · 17th January 2007, 12:34 AM

JUDL!!!
Stop it! You guys are killin' me with this

!!!
Fantastic stuff and its great to see we all still have our sense of humor!
Jeff.....good one ! paypal assassins

Tim, you are up for the Nobel Piece Prize for this one! Beautifully done

Spiral, you truly are a good sport, I for one am very impressed.

Thank you guys so much, you're the best!!!

Jim

katana · 18th January 2007, 01:28 AM

Tim ,
I noticed that the Papal Assassin's Dagger is without a scabbard...
..apparently they were too cumbersome and impractical....and were often discarded......I found an image that may explain why....

Rick · 18th January 2007, 01:42 AM

< sigh >

Jim McDougall · 18th January 2007, 02:03 AM

JUDL!!!!!

Unbelievable Rick!!

You Rock!!!

Emanuel · 18th January 2007, 03:28 AM

hahah make that an official smiley/emoticon PLEASE!!!

wolviex · 18th January 2007, 08:20 AM

Hmmm, now I lost. Does this picture suggest the scabbard would be in shape of CHURCH DIRECTED in PROPER WAY .... or does it prove it is impossible to make scabbard with the picture of the church in that way!

(aren't we going too far?)

16th January 2007, 08:07 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Papal death squad knife. This knife is a Papal assassins knife. The Papal death priests carry them to protect themselves from the Devil and other heretics. They are derived from the Spanish inquisition. Attached Images

18th January 2007, 01:28 AM	#26
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Tim , I noticed that the Papal Assassin's Dagger is without a scabbard... ..apparently they were too cumbersome and impractical....and were often discarded......I found an image that may explain why.... Attached Images

18th January 2007, 01:42 AM	#27
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	< sigh > Attached Images

18th January 2007, 08:20 AM	#30
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	Hmmm, now I lost. Does this picture suggest the scabbard would be in shape of CHURCH DIRECTED in PROPER WAY .... or does it prove it is impossible to make scabbard with the picture of the church in that way! (aren't we going too far?) Attached Images

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16th January 2007, 08:13 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Is this a serious thread?

16th January 2007, 08:16 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	It could have been .

16th January 2007, 08:21 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	That blade looks plenty serious...the handle is a bit toy-like though.

16th January 2007, 08:32 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	The blade is very serious. The chap selling it said it was taken from an Italian officer in ww2 He was one of the death priests I imagine, that became an officer in the army?

16th January 2007, 08:40 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Looks like some kind of antique souvenir of Venice.

16th January 2007, 08:42 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Why do you say that Rick?

16th January 2007, 08:53 PM	#9
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Isn't the handle the winged lion of St. Mark a Venice landmark ? Why yes it is ! http://simplethinking.com/home/italy...j-P6228624.jpg

16th January 2007, 09:01 PM	#10
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Yes it is Rick, but it is well known the the papal death priests were established in Venice as there was a special hard line order. The order of st Mark. Look very closely at the cross it is not an ordinary cross. The cross piece is in the middle making it quite different.

16th January 2007, 09:12 PM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Pardon my ignorance Tim; never heard of 'em. Got any sources ?

16th January 2007, 09:22 PM	#12
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Rick the people who collect these things know that these people have always been a death squad since the late crusades. In my opinion you have shown no evidence to counter my original claim. http://www.medals.org.uk/egypt/egypt...kingdom008.htm

16th January 2007, 09:28 PM	#13
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Anyway Bernard Manning said so. No its all make believe. bernard Manning is real. I wonder if he is on the internet.

16th January 2007, 09:30 PM	#14
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Out of my realm of knowledge Tim; not countering your claim; just giving an opinion from observation of the object .

16th January 2007, 09:33 PM	#15
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	This guy is one of them and I am his head boy. http://www.bernardmanning.com/

16th January 2007, 09:34 PM	#16
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Does it look like rhino horn to you Tim? I reckon it could be. Spiral

16th January 2007, 09:37 PM	#17
Daniel Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: California Posts: 16	You mean there are no experts on early brass handled Papal-assassin figural daggers in this forum with other examples of winged lions to support your identification? How disappointing. DD

16th January 2007, 09:40 PM	#19
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	No its not brown

16th January 2007, 10:04 PM	#22
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	That is probably the one.

16th January 2007, 10:10 PM	#23
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Isn't the 'bow' on the hilt......an 'eternal bow'.......good grief...my Aunt and Uncle have a dinner service with this motif......supporters of the Papal assassins ???

16th January 2007, 11:21 PM	#24
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	No it cant be a papal assasins knife they use Moro kris. Heres some evidence for you..... http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-papal-assassins.html Looks like 9mms are popular as well. Spiral

17th January 2007, 12:34 AM	#25
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	JUDL!!! Stop it! You guys are killin' me with this !!! Fantastic stuff and its great to see we all still have our sense of humor! Jeff.....good one ! paypal assassins Tim, you are up for the Nobel Piece Prize for this one! Beautifully done Spiral, you truly are a good sport, I for one am very impressed. Thank you guys so much, you're the best!!! Jim

18th January 2007, 02:03 AM	#28
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	JUDL!!!!! Unbelievable Rick!! You Rock!!!

18th January 2007, 03:28 AM	#29
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	hahah make that an official smiley/emoticon PLEASE!!!