Dagger ID, MN Garage Sale find

fearn · 31st August 2006, 06:15 AM

I think it's a Chinese eating knife. Do a search on "Chinese trousse." I've seen similar knives sold in ethno shops in the Midwest. Typically, the sheath holds a pair of chopsticks and perhaps a pickle spear as well, but this one seems to be a knife alone.

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Jim McDougall · 4th September 2006, 09:30 PM

Although the unusual pommel cap on this interesting knife does indeed reflect certain Asian gestalt, it seems that the dot and circle motif is typically associated with Central Asian weapons. This simple, yet distinct ,motif appears on items from Afghanistan and adjacent regions such as the lohar, and I have seen it on buzkhashi whip grips, these items probably early 20th century. It seems possible this may be a bytshak type knife that may be from Uzbek regions, but the same motif also appears on Bosnian knives, so it would be difficult to determine exactly with such diffusion.
Best regards,
Jim

Andrew · 5th September 2006, 04:33 AM

Jim, I've also seen this exact feature on recent decorative Indian kukhri.

Jim McDougall · 6th September 2006, 01:52 AM

Hi Andrew,
That seems to fall into place well as a great deal of modern examples of such classical weapons seem to derive from northwestern regions of India, particularly Rajasthan. While this motif is of course extremely simple, it seems distinctive in its application on items from regions described.
All best regards,
Jim

Ferguson · 6th September 2006, 04:13 PM

Tibet? Bhutan?

Just a wild guess.

Steve

ward · 6th September 2006, 05:54 PM

mid late 20 century tibetan

derek · 8th September 2006, 05:04 AM

A tibetan Khampa knife. I've had several pass through my hands over the years.....

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31st August 2006, 06:15 AM	#1
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I think it's a Chinese eating knife. Do a search on "Chinese trousse." I've seen similar knives sold in ethno shops in the Midwest. Typically, the sheath holds a pair of chopsticks and perhaps a pickle spear as well, but this one seems to be a knife alone. F

4th September 2006, 09:30 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,298	Although the unusual pommel cap on this interesting knife does indeed reflect certain Asian gestalt, it seems that the dot and circle motif is typically associated with Central Asian weapons. This simple, yet distinct ,motif appears on items from Afghanistan and adjacent regions such as the lohar, and I have seen it on buzkhashi whip grips, these items probably early 20th century. It seems possible this may be a bytshak type knife that may be from Uzbek regions, but the same motif also appears on Bosnian knives, so it would be difficult to determine exactly with such diffusion. Best regards, Jim

5th September 2006, 04:33 AM	#3
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Jim, I've also seen this exact feature on recent decorative Indian kukhri.

6th September 2006, 01:52 AM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,298	Hi Andrew, That seems to fall into place well as a great deal of modern examples of such classical weapons seem to derive from northwestern regions of India, particularly Rajasthan. While this motif is of course extremely simple, it seems distinctive in its application on items from regions described. All best regards, Jim

6th September 2006, 04:13 PM	#5
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Tibet? Bhutan? Just a wild guess. Steve

6th September 2006, 05:54 PM	#6
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	mid late 20 century tibetan

8th September 2006, 05:04 AM	#7
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	A tibetan Khampa knife. I've had several pass through my hands over the years.....