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Old 24th January 2026, 02:32 AM   #1
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Looks like the lion of Brabant?
it does but the coat of arms of the Brederodes is a little more complicated (and changed through the times a bit):

https://1456.anticipate.nl/desktop/e...e-en-vianen-2/

yet the history of the abbey as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_Abbey

the lion was used by the Counts of Holland but they later took the red lion of Valkenburg (a town in the South of the Netherlands , close to Thorn as well)

unfortunately the explanation is in Dutch only ( but you can use google translate as the text is not that complicated, so not much room for error ☺)
https://burgundiannobility.wordpress...van-brederode/

so back on topic of the sword, it is indeed the coat of arms of Thorn Abbey at the time of Margareth of Brederode: four lions in red .
Nice detail: she / or actually the Imperial Abbey of Thorn was taken to court of the Holy Roman Empire in Spier as both silver and gold coins of the abbey lacked the minimum criteria (amount of silver and gold) set by the empire...and in 1561 emperor Ferdinand forbid to struck these silver and gold coins in and for the Thorn Abbey
https://wiki.muntenenpapiergeld.nl/i...hp?title=Thorn
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Old 24th January 2026, 11:15 AM   #2
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Hi,

I'll clean it up and take a better picture of the coat of arms that I'll post here next week - maybe it'll clear up the whole mystery!
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Here are better picture of the pic on blade

it looks like 4 lions in 4 different fields or possibly 3 lions and a praying figure - the Maria image at the top is exactly the same as on the coins from Thorn Netherlands - so I think we can now say for sure that this sword comes from Thorn Abbey Netherlands - big thanks to everyone who helped with this detective work!!
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