kris Maranao named

Ian · 8th September 2025, 06:03 AM

The blade and dress point to Maguindanao origin I think. The space enclosed by the elephant trunk is circular and the trunk is horizontal. This usually suggests a Maguindanao origin. The absence of side extensions on the sampir is mostly a Maguindanao trait. The minimalist shape of the kakatua pommel is also seen on some post WWII Maguindanao kris. I agree with your estimate of age.

tanaruz · 8th September 2025, 12:16 PM

Thank you Ian.

Warmest regards

Yves

Sajen · 9th September 2025, 04:42 PM

I think that the blade is older than 70 years!

Ian · 10th September 2025, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

I think that the blade is older than 70 years!

The blade could be a bit older. The dress looks mid-20th C.

Sajen · 11th September 2025, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

The blade could be a bit older. The dress looks mid-20th C.

Agree regarding the dress but the blade has a separate gangya so it will be antique I guess.

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 11th September 2025, 10:56 AM

Hi Detlef.

A separate gangya occurred on some Moro kris blades made in the second half of the 20th C, and even on blades made today by traditional panday. Malayan blades still preserve a separate gangya on their large kris form.

I suspect that Yves' blade may date from the 1930s-1940s. The markedly V-shaped tip is a post-1900 feature. The "arrow head" carved areas have flat grooves with square shoulders, suggesting to me the use of power tools to create them. A similar arrow head appearance occurs sometimes on Malayan kris blades from the mid-1900s and later (I am using kris to refer to the large, Moro-like, Malayan kris, not to Malayan keris).

Despite being relatively recent, the various styles of 20th C Moro kris have not been dated precisely.

tanaruz · 13th September 2025, 11:59 PM

Hi friends,

much thanks for these inputs. Appreciate it.

Yves

8th September 2025, 12:16 PM	#2
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 283	kris maranao named Thank you Ian. Warmest regards Yves

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tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 283	Kris Maranao named Hi friends, much thanks for these inputs. Appreciate it. Yves

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8th September 2025, 06:03 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,512	The blade and dress point to Maguindanao origin I think. The space enclosed by the elephant trunk is circular and the trunk is horizontal. This usually suggests a Maguindanao origin. The absence of side extensions on the sampir is mostly a Maguindanao trait. The minimalist shape of the kakatua pommel is also seen on some post WWII Maguindanao kris. I agree with your estimate of age.

9th September 2025, 04:42 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	I think that the blade is older than 70 years!

11th September 2025, 10:56 AM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,512	Hi Detlef. A separate gangya occurred on some Moro kris blades made in the second half of the 20th C, and even on blades made today by traditional panday. Malayan blades still preserve a separate gangya on their large kris form. I suspect that Yves' blade may date from the 1930s-1940s. The markedly V-shaped tip is a post-1900 feature. The "arrow head" carved areas have flat grooves with square shoulders, suggesting to me the use of power tools to create them. A similar arrow head appearance occurs sometimes on Malayan kris blades from the mid-1900s and later (I am using kris to refer to the large, Moro-like, Malayan kris, not to Malayan keris). Despite being relatively recent, the various styles of 20th C Moro kris have not been dated precisely.