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Old Yesterday, 12:43 AM   #1
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Default Pepperbox pistol 1840s?

This pepperbox is entirely unmarked, there seem to be numbers on the chambers. I only assume 1840s, English ? or Belgian?
The butt compartment to hold caps still had caps inside, exactly as it was found 50 yrs ago.

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As there are Birmingham proof- and viewmarks besides the n°2 barrel this should be an English product.
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Thank you Udo, I could not make those out.
Ian....I posted this on the wrong forum...oops...senior moment
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I posted this on the wrong forum...oops...senior moment

Hi Jim,
No need to worry we all have them !!! Here's a little list I'm sure all us 'oldies' will recognise.
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No need to worry we all have them !!! Here's a little list I'm sure all us 'oldies' will recognise.
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Can you imagine what it would be like if we were all under same roof? (cuckoos nest anyone?
Some of these remind me of., 'Im not paranoid...its the people chasing me!;'
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Hi Jim,
This is a very nice Pepperbox pistol. It surprises me that with the quality engraving etc that there is no Makers or Sellers name on it.
For your information attached is info on British Proof Marks which I hope ypu will find of interest.
https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/514-2
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Hi Jim,
This is a very nice Pepperbox pistol. It surprises me that with the quality engraving etc that there is no Makers or Sellers name on it.
For your information attached is info on British Proof Marks which I hope ypu will find of interest.
https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/514-2
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Thank you Stu!
The absence of maker made me think it Belgium, but then I think they had proofs as well. I dont have the gun handy so cant check, but will get a magnifying glass to check those marks by the numbers. Thanks very much for the list, my gun resources pretty limited.
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Thank you Stu!
The absence of maker made me think it Belgium, but then I think they had proofs as well. I dont have the gun handy so cant check, but will get a magnifying glass to check those marks by the numbers. Thanks very much for the list, my gun resources pretty limited.
Give me a day or two and I will send you Belgian Proofs. The Pepperbox of your s is definitely English
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Here are Belgian Proof Marks https://www.shotguns.se/html/belgium.html
Also on left hand column is a list of other countries Proof Marks which can be accessed
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My pepperbox is very similar to yours Jim.
It does have a maker's name W.Dooley of Liverpool - so definitely English, and an additional safety feature which locks the hammer up. Each barrel is numbered and has a proof mark.

The barrel numbers are, I think, important for loading. To help ensure you don't load a barrel twice.
Obviously, the caps go on last. There is no half cock position but if you use the safety bar you can rotate the barrels by number to load.

Firearms are mostly outside my interest but this came up at auction with no other bidders. So I was happy to take it home.
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