Shula S'boula/Jiboula

[RobT]

werecow,

I took this link (https://www.armes-anciennes-du-maroc..._selection.pdf) from the original supplied by Pertinax. I tried it in that original thread and it worked. I don't know why mine doesn't, so I bookmarked the site.

Sincerely,
RobT

[RobT]

werecow,

If you go to the original thread (A koummya- and contexts) started by Jim Mcdougall on 03/27/25 (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30588) and click on the link supplied by Pertinax on 3/28/25, it works but if you copy it over (as I did for this thread), it doesn’t work. I can’t figure that one out.

Sincerely,
RobT

[werecow]

Originally Posted by RobT

werecow,

If you go to the original thread (A koummya- and contexts) started by Jim Mcdougall on 03/27/25 (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30588) and click on the link supplied by Pertinax on 3/28/25, it works but if you copy it over (as I did for this thread), it doesn’t work. I can’t figure that one out.

Sincerely,
RobT

I think the software abbreviated the text for the link in the original post and you probably copied the text instead of the link by accident. Let's try that again.

[Jim McDougall]

Terms for ethnographic arms are typically problematic, and for many years here we have referred to these NAME GAMES (not many younger folks here likely recall Shirley Ellis!) as just that, banana fana fo fana!!

These with the curious 'I' handle hilt seem to recall the early European form known as baselard, and like numbers of elements of Moroccan arms appear to reflect those influences. Like most weapons in tribal settings, diffusion via trade networks and nomadic movement was expected, and these seem to have moved eastward.
Some of these were known with similar hilts etc. in Ethiopia (as noted in several references) sometimes inscribed in Amharic, but are not considered indiginous to those regions.
Beyond this, undoubtedly via trade networks to the south, they ended up as far as Zanzibar, where Burton ("Book of the Sword", 1884) may have encountered them, however his reference to them was taken from Auguste Demmin (1877) who described them as from Zanzibar.

Charles Buttin (1933) who lived much of his life in Morocco, corrected this in his descriptions to properly s'bula from there, noting the Demmin/Burton discrepancy(#1032,1033)

Many of these, from the more consistent Moroccan context, seem to be fit with old bayonet blades, and as with these kinds of tribal weapons and continuous remounting, any number of blade types may be encountered.